Another 2 speed vs 3 speed wiper motor differences post. Would appreciate some input.

[MikeyM]

Hi all,

'69 Bee, 383, 727. I have a 2 speed switch, I think - off and 2 other positions. Pretty sure I have a 3 speed motor cuz the wiper motor has no plug, just directly hard wired, although a few wires are cut. I have read a few posts on the differences and am pretty sure my linkage under the dash is OEM but I will confirm when I get home from work. I will also double check the build sheet if it shows it but what is the main thing I'm looking for under the dash on the linkage? The different linkage arms that connect to the motor - they are clocked differently, are different lengths and the 2 speed has a black bushing while the 3 speed has a white bushing? I have pictures of the 2 different arms that connect to the wiper motor.

Thanks,
Mikey

 

[RR Fan Dan]

Post a picture of your wiper motor.

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

Hi all,

'69 Bee, 383, 727. I have a 2 speed switch, I think - off and 2 other positions. Pretty sure I have a 3 speed motor cuz the wiper motor has no plug, just directly hard wired, although a few wires are cut. I have read a few posts on the differences and am pretty sure my linkage under the dash is OEM but I will confirm when I get home from work. I will also double check the build sheet if it shows it but what is the main thing I'm looking for under the dash on the linkage? The different linkage arms that connect to the motor - they are clocked differently, are different lengths and the 2 speed has a black bushing while the 3 speed has a white bushing? I have pictures of the 2 different arms that connect to the wiper motor.

Thanks,
Mikey

Hi Mikey, with that Ramcharger set up and air cleaner you have, you’d have to have a 3 Speed motor. Plymouth air grabber set up on the bottom ala mine lol. They sale the connection block on EBay and could solder wire and terminals as week if your crafty with a solder iron.

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

Send me text if you want more info also can get a pic of the wiper linkage that my buddy has Friday for a three setup if you want?

 

[RR Fan Dan]

with that Ramcharger set up and air cleaner you have, you’d have to have a 3 Speed motor

If I’d known this I agree. It’s a 3 speed. The ramcharger won’t fit with a 2 speed. A 2 speed switch won’t work and the linkage arms needs to be changed. I did this conversion on my 68 coronet. Could never find the correct arm for the 3 speed.

 

[MikeyM]

Thanks, guys. At this point, I'm mainly just looking to get it working again, the easiest way possible. I just got home so I'll run down and take a looksie.

Stay tuned, Bat Fans!

Thanks again,
Mikey

 

[Bird 426]

The difference on the arm is the attachment to the motor. 3-speed won't attach to a 2-speed and visa versa. It's the shaft. My '69 Dart had a 3-speed wiper motor, and switch, but my linkage was for the 2-speed. So, had to acquire a switch and motor etc.

 

[MikeyM]

Thanks, Bird.

So here's me:

 

[MikeyM]

And my switch only has off, and 2 positions. So I'm thinking someone replaced the switch with a 2 speed instead of 3??

Thanks,
Mikey

 

[RR Fan Dan]

more than likely that is your original switch and they replaced the two speed motor with the 3 speed motor so the ramcharger would fit.

And my switch only has off, and 2 positions. So I'm thinking someone replaced the switch with a 2 speed instead of 3??

Thanks,
Mikey

 

[MikeyM]

Ok so now I’m a little confused…. I m pretty sure the build sheet says it had the N96 package. I’ll double check but if it did, maybe someone replaced the switch??? I can post a pic of the build sheet if it helps.

Thanks,
Mikey

 

[RR Fan Dan]

I m pretty sure the build sheet says it had the N96 package

Well if it’s on the build sheet as a N96 than you are correct someone changed out the switch. Don’t pay attention to me.

 

[MikeyM]

Hey Dan, I don’t know if that’s the case, was just a thought from what I was told. I’m still trying to confirm figure out what this car has / had / was supposed to have. Is there a straight forward way to tell? Build sheet? I’m certainly a new Mopar guy so just hoping for some guidance.

Thanks,
Mikey

 

[RR Fan Dan]

Hey Dan, I don’t know if that’s the case, was just a thought from what I was told. I’m still trying to confirm figure out what this car has / had / was supposed to have. Is there a straight forward way to tell? Build sheet? I’m certainly a new Mopar guy so just hoping for some guidance.

Thanks,
Mikey

Does the car have a fender tag?

 

[MikeyM]

Nope. Long gone. But, from what I was told, the PO sent the VIN and build sheet to the Super Bee registry (at the time I didn’t know that was a thing) and they (I think) reproduced a fender tag that could be re-stamped. And, apparently, it shows the N96 package along with all the other included stuff.
I can post it up for some input/feedback, just need to cut out the old owners info first. So, in short, I have the VIN and broadcast sheet so I should be able to find out all the specifics from those, no?

Thanks for the help,
Mikey.

 

[RR Fan Dan]

So, in short, I have the VIN and broadcast sheet so I should be able to find out all the specifics from those, no?

Yes.

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

Thanks, Bird.

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Yep a 3 speed and like 50+ year old parts the cloth over the fine wires missing but just make sure those bar wires aren’t touching or get to shield them

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

And my switch only has off, and 2 positions. So I'm thinking someone replaced the switch with a 2 speed instead of 3??

Thanks,
Mikey

If you can see the switch or remove it the 3 speed will have a square resistor mounted top back of switch

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

Also Mikey the part number on that wiper barrel ends in 116 but I’m betting that’s the original one with the car

 

[Bird 426]

It was the orientation of the slot on the motor shaft that was different, 2-speed, 3-speed or variable on my Dart. It was attached with the nut, but the wipers could not work properly. I forget now how I caught it, I never go out in rain. Your picture, the arm looks to be attached properly. Your switch, should it have an electric w/s washer? Just guessing the 2-speed was a manual foot pump. Think your getting close to figuring this out.