Air Shocks or Rear End Lifts

Cranky · May 22, 2015

GetX'd said:
I called Summit again and they don't carry air shocks for a 68 GTX. They had no solutions.

You're not reading the entire posts.....he said...."I bought mine from summit I think they were about 75 bucks. They are for a dodge van

Other words, you buy van shocks for the car. I even mentioned in another post that most of this stuff crosses over.

WileERobby · May 22, 2015

Gabriel 49106 fit your car... and most other Mopsrs of the era.

GetX'd · May 22, 2015

WP29440SE said:
I have used air shocks for years and never had an issue. I just recently bought a brand new pair.

May I ask where you bought the and the brand purchased? I'm just looking for a little extra clearance for my wheels. Thx!

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Cranky said:
You're not reading the entire posts.....he said...."I bought mine from summit I think they were about 75 bucks. They are for a dodge van

Other words, you buy van shocks for the car. I even mentioned in another post that most of this stuff crosses over.

Sorry but I did read and catch that the shocks were for a dodge van - it just didn't register they would be the best solution for my 68 Plymouth. I know there's cross over between dodge and Plymouth. And I also don't know what he used them on. Try not to get too "cranky" w/me. I don't have a lot of mechanical experience - since back in the day. I've been away from it all for many years. Trying to learn from all you guys that are more current.

Cranky · May 22, 2015

mobileparts said:
I have just picked up a load of 77 sets of N.O.S. MONROE Air Shocks and there are 15 sets of "B" and "E" body Rear Air Shocks .... 3 are
reserved for 2 of my friends (1 buying 2 sets); the other 12 sets are available -- and however many I have left by that time, I will be bringing with me to Chryslers @ Carlisle.....

B and E body shocks are the same. IIRC, the van and pickup shocks are a bit longer but the still compress enough to work on the B and E cars. 'A' body shocks won't work on the others.

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GetX'd said:
May I ask where you bought the and the brand purchased? I'm just looking for a little extra clearance for my wheels. Thx!

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Sorry but I did read and catch that the shocks were for a dodge van - it just didn't register they would be the best solution for my 68 Plymouth. I know there's cross over between dodge and Plymouth. And I also don't know what he used them on.

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GetX'd · May 22, 2015

kiwigtx said:
Stay away from air-shocks for long term usage. You're better off sorting out the wheel offset, or replacing the leaf springs if necessary to give the extra lift. Shock absorbers are for exactly that - absorbing the shock and smoothing the ride, not for jacking up the rear end artificially. :icon_thumright:

I hear what you're saying - but I've already changed the leaf springs and had an extra leaf put in. I wonder if they could be further modified to give me a little extra clearance. It's going to be a major pain in the butt if I have to sell the tires and wheels I just bought to accommodate an inch..... But life is a bear sometimes. It's just that I love the look and want to find another way if possible.

kiwigtx · May 23, 2015

What tends to happen is that people eventually rely on their air-shocks for ride height when towing, or loading up a car which has rear end issues to begin with. After time the excessive load will cause failure of the air-shocks, sometimes with catastrophic consequences.
If you have ever seen a car with no shocks, you'll know what I'm talking about. I followed a Jaguar with no shocks once ....I pulled back real quick.

Basket case · May 23, 2015

I got my air shocks from Rockauto. I've used air shocks for 30+ years without any problems with the shock crossmember. Just remember, when it says 150 psi max on the shock valve....that doesn't mean to run that much. I also added an extra main leaf (with the eyes cut off).

Car Nut · May 23, 2015

Basket case said:
I got my air shocks from Rockauto. I've used air shocks for 30+ years without any problems with the shock crossmember. Just remember, when it says 150 psi max on the shock valve....that doesn't mean to run that much. I also added an extra main leaf (with the eyes cut off).

Looks good!

I bought my 69 Charger that has Hi-Jackers, soon to be removed and installing HD leafs.

hunt2elk · May 23, 2015

There is no reason that 275/60/15's with an 8" rim won't fit perfectly on your car with stock springs and shocks. Do some measuring with the current set up and buy a couple of new rims with the correct backspace. That would be the best fix imo.

WP29440SE · May 23, 2015

WileERobby said:
I'm curious. Has anybody personally had experience with air shocks breaking the support, on a "non" rusted / corroded floor ?

never once

GetX'd said:
I called Summit again and they don't carry air shocks for a 68 GTX. They had no solutions.

they don't have a clue what interchanges with what.

GetX'd said:
May I ask where you bought the and the brand purchased? I'm just looking for a little extra clearance for my wheels. Thx!

1977 Dodge van , B100 , B200 ETC. they come in different lengths.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/...g&tw=gabriel &sw=Gabriel HiJackers Air Shocks

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/gab-49212/overview/year/1977/make/dodge/model/b100

heres the deal with air shocks. they work great as long as you are A) not trying to blast 200psi into them B) not installing them on rusted out mounts, C) not piling blocks of cement in the trunk, and D) not trying to play dukes of hazard over railroad tracks. I have used them since the 80's and NEVER had one issue.
below is fully extended before any air and no weight

Cranky · May 23, 2015

That's a pretty cool looking car and that's saying a lot since I never really cared that much for the 71 and newer B body cars and not a fan of white paint either!! lol. My eyes are somewhat light sensitive and is the reason for that. I do like mine to sit lower however. I usually keep mine a bit lower than factory with a mild nose down rake. Had a white 74 SWB pickup with a set of polished Fenton RT wheels ( https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=fenton+rt+wheels ) on it and like yours, the polished aluminum wheels really look good with the white paint. Drove that pickup for 5 years and it was a relief to get rid of the brightness lol. Thought about doing the hood in black but didn't think it would look good so I never did it.

WP29440SE · May 23, 2015

Cranky said:
That's a pretty cool looking car and that's saying a lot since I never really cared that much for the 71 and newer B body cars and not a fan of white paint either!! lol. My eyes are somewhat light sensitive and is the reason for that. I do like mine to sit lower however. I usually keep mine a bit lower than factory with a mild nose down rake. Had a white 74 SWB pickup with a set of polished Fenton RT wheels ( https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=fenton+rt+wheels ) on it and like yours, the polished aluminum wheels really look good with the white paint. Drove that pickup for 5 years and it was a relief to get rid of the brightness lol. Thought about doing the hood in black but didn't think it would look good so I never did it.

it will be getting B5 blue paint this summer , that is just light yellow epoxy primer, which is kind of a cream color. I have a set of American racing torque thrust that are on it now.

here is under the hood, the blue looks different in the pic than in person for some reason

Cranky · May 23, 2015

Ah, tunnel ram! Ran one on a 440 powered race car in the early 80's and fell in love with them. A buddy borrowed it when life got in the way and I guess he liked it too because it took me a year to get it back lol. He wanted to buy it but didn't want to pay squat for it so I sold it just to show him what it was worth lol. I plan on running a low deck with one on the street if I ever get the chance. Already have it too and now he says he should have bought my old one. Silly rabbit

I like those wheels on it too!

WP29440SE · May 23, 2015

Cranky said:
Ah, tunnel ram! Ran one on a 440 powered race car in the early 80's and fell in love with them. A buddy borrowed it when life got in the way and I guess he liked it too because it took me a year to get it back lol. He wanted to buy it but didn't want to pay squat for it so I sold it just to show him what it was worth lol. I plan on running a low deck with one on the street if I ever get the chance. Already have it too and now he says he should have bought my old one. Silly rabbit
I like those wheels on it too!

LOL , I picked that one up for 150 bucks , its an old school weiand 5987 , the carbs are 600 cfm 1406's , it runs great and gets a lot of attention. I was really amazed at how easy it was to set it up.

coloradodave · May 23, 2015

This conversation reminds me of when I was much younger and put a deep pan on my 63 Corvette. I immediately scraped it on the driveway curb. My solution? Not remove the pan, but install 2" dropped spindles!
My own opinion is to do like was said above and buy the wheels with the right offset. Craigslist will help you sell the ones you have now.
As for damage done by airshocks? In my days working at a speed shop we sold hundreds of sets of Hi-Jackers. Never saw any crossmember damage, but had lots of unhappy customers who blew an airline and shredded tires and fender lips. You pays your money and you takes your chances...

Cranky · May 23, 2015

And one more time.....install separate lines to the shocks if you do install air shocks. With the lines T'd together, the shock that compresses during a turn will force air over to the other and and make the car lean even more. A car with the rear several inches in the air will lean more anyways and it doesn't need the shocks to induce more lean. They shouldn't be too hard to find a kit to do this with....

MT_Mopar · May 23, 2015

Make sure everything is bolted in good! LOL

Dennis H · May 23, 2015

Wow! Only thing worse is listening to that woman's mouth. WTF kind of shrieking is that.

Cranky · May 23, 2015

I'm about ready for that vid to go away.....

Car Nut · May 23, 2015

Dennis H said:
Wow! Only thing worse is listening to that woman's mouth. WTF kind of shrieking is that.

Cranky said:
I'm about ready for that vid to go away.....

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