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rear end noise

jprather

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i had a 8 3/4 rear built a couple years ago, went with 3:55 sure grip, receipt says he used Motive 3:55 / 489 case gears US or Motive.

it doesnt howl ,but it sings at hwy speed , is this normal ??
 
Not really, but could it be your tires?
 
no, its not tires, tried that . guess i should send my son under to double check fluid level
 
Yeah - good to assure what might be causing the noise if you rule out tire noise. Also when cruising shift to N to see if you find any difference in the noise to rule out possible trans noise. I'd be inclined to suck out some lube from bottom of the diff to see if there's any magnetic grit. It may need sure grip additive if not added; assume this was done; but some have said Ford or GM posi additives aside from mopar has worked better. I added GM to mine...
 
My 8 3/4 had a hum at precisely 44mph. I let the local differential shop manager drive the car and he immediately yelled "pinion"!

I just had a local shop replace my ring and pinion and bearings. I also had axle bearings replaced. Put it all back together and no hum at any speeds up to 55mph. I followed the directions of driving under 40mph for 20 minutes and letting it cool off for 20 minutes then repeat.

That was 200 miles ago and guess what? I have a hum at precisely 50mph now. I also now have a slight driveline whine on declaration between 35 and 25mph.

I'm just going ahead and driving it. Not sure the noise or hum is from the differential now?
 
My 8 3/4 had a hum at precisely 44mph. I let the local differential shop manager drive the car and he immediately yelled "pinion"!

I just had a local shop replace my ring and pinion and bearings. I also had axle bearings replaced. Put it all back together and no hum at any speeds up to 55mph. I followed the directions of driving under 40mph for 20 minutes and letting it cool off for 20 minutes then repeat.

That was 200 miles ago and guess what? I have a hum at precisely 50mph now. I also now have a slight driveline whine on declaration between 35 and 25mph.

I'm just going ahead and driving it. Not sure the noise or hum is from the differential now?
Or could do what I did, louder exhaust so I can't hear squat...
 
My experience says it's the aftermarket gears. I had the same problem with the 3:55 install on my Superbird. After about 2000 miles it's now gone.
 
Light weight gear oil won't dampen gear noise either.
 
I used 85w140 per the diff shop recommendation. Took 9 pints total and I've checked the level twice.

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it was filled with " skunk oil " and mopar sure grip additive, it has maybe 1500 - 2000 miles on it , ALL internals are new
 
Blue boxed Motive are often noisy, they aren’t “lapped” had them before, bloody terrible,
 
Agree with above blaming gear quality (made Not Here). I had a friend who owned a one-man rearend shop. He told me that certain brands of aftermarket gears will make noise, no matter how good the setup is. For stock rebuilds (read-quiet cars, not hot rods or race cars) he always recommended oem factory gears.
 
Agree with above blaming gear quality (made Not Here). I had a friend who owned a one-man rearend shop. He told me that certain brands of aftermarket gears will make noise, no matter how good the setup is. For stock rebuilds (read-quiet cars, not hot rods or race cars) he always recommended oem factory gears.
Interesting know the old ways some slop has to be. Lets the gear oil mesh in the teeth.
 
With new gears, they should always be sanded (for lack of a better term) on all the teeth. They have sharp edges, they need to be knocked down. A scotch brite type sanding discs on a 1/4” air grinder works perfectly, use the blue, not red as it will take a lot of material off in a heart beat.
 
I had a buddy that had a knowledgeable guy change gears for him. Sure enough they made a little noise so he told the installer about the noise and the installer replied that it wasn't the first time with this particular brand of gears.
 
My 8 3/4 had a hum at precisely 44mph. I let the local differential shop manager drive the car and he immediately yelled "pinion"!

I just had a local shop replace my ring and pinion and bearings. I also had axle bearings replaced. Put it all back together and no hum at any speeds up to 55mph. I followed the directions of driving under 40mph for 20 minutes and letting it cool off for 20 minutes then repeat.

That was 200 miles ago and guess what? I have a hum at precisely 50mph now. I also now have a slight driveline whine on declaration between 35 and 25mph.

I'm just going ahead and driving it. Not sure the noise or hum is from the differential now?
Dont forget to check driveshaft
 
Learn to do it yourself and you would know exactly. Don't trust opinion without knowledge. Try this trick balance the motor neutral on acceleration and wind down see if the noise is there. Had a jeep that drove fine and never made a noise till then. I was amazed to see the u joints were with no needle bearings at all but drove fine. Wish you the best of luck.
 
IMO...
Try going down a long gradient, say on an Interstate road at speed, shift into neutral and coast for approx 1/8 mile or so. Check for noise. While coasting down, and traffic permits, try some gradual left/right steering input, say like you're changing lanes. Listen for noise....if noise occurs, when inputting a left turn, it is likely that the RIGHT side rear axle bearing is failing. If the noise occurs when turning right, the left rear axle bearing is the noise source. These maneuvers loads the rear axle bearings while they are rotating at speed.
Yes, it is possible that one of the differential carrier bearings are going bad, but is more probable that its an axle bearing. The differential pinion bearings are just rotating and should be quiet under these conditions without any or nomimal thrust load. The choice of rear axle bearings not withstanding, a failing ball bearing assembly will present this way when subjected to rotary and AXIAL loads. The FSM procedures should be followed to make the final determination. Just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON
 
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IMO...
Try going down a long gradient, say on an Interstate road at speed, shift into neutral and coast for approx 1/8 mile or so. Check for noise. While coasting down, and traffic permits, try some gradual left/right steering input, say like you're changing lanes. Listen for noise....if noise occurs, when inputting a left turn, it is likely that the RIGHT side rear axle bearing is failing. If the noise occurs when turning right, the left rear axle bearing is the noise source. These maneuvers loads the rear axle bearings while they are rotating at speed.
Yes, it is possible that one of the differential carrier bearings are going bad, but is more probable. The differential pinion bearings are just rotating and should be quiet under these conditions without any or nomimal thrust load. The choice of rear axle bearings not withstanding, a failing ball bearing assembly will present this way when subjected to rotary and AXIAL loads. The FSM procedures should be followed to make the final determination. Just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON
Then there you have it figured out.
 
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