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What's it Worth Thinking of selling my dad's Superbird

Redbird said:
Moparedtn,

I’m sorry if I offended you. I rarely post here, and I don’t really understand how to just add a comment. The system just seems goofy to me, and I appear to be not the only one. The system just picks up an old comment and attaches it. My comment was not directed towards anyone.

I liked the OP’s original pictures. Red car with a white bucket interior. Pretty cool and rare. I have only seen a couple like this. I have 49 years of owning wing cars. I lost interest in the WIW questions long before the cars hit the $ 5K sales price. My interests are the history; I have a whole lot of factory literature, jackets, posters and dealership items. I like the oddball cars like this one. And I could care less as to what it sells for.

It will be a while until I post again.
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No worries sir, not offended at all - and that's what I suspected was going on, honestly.
I hope you post MORE often around here (literate, capable writers always being in demand, after all).

Looks like you know how to post without quoting now, too. :thumbsup:
 
autoxcuda said:
Is it a V-code 440-6 or was the six pack added?

do you have the buildsheet and/or window sticker? Does it still have fender tag ? (sometimes lost/removed during repaints)
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Yes, it's a factory V-code 440 six pack with the aluminum intake from the factory...

I have the buildsheet (somewhere), and the fender tag is still on it... No window sticker...
 
70 sublime said:
As much as it would be nice to get the car back to the original owner because he wished he still had it
I doubt you would be selling it back to him at the 1982 price he rembers letting it go for
Think he is more thinking I wish I still owned it to be able to sell it for 10 times the price he sold it for the first time
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The thing I'm worried about the original owner is when we bought it from him, he had american racing wheels rear rims on the back and centerline rums in the front... Kinda tacky... Not sure I would want him to do that again...
 
DeltaV said:
So, things we see in the OP pictures not already mentioned:

power steering cooler (standard on SB?)
tic-toc-tach
automatic transmission
console shifter
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The tic-toc-tach was added and not factory... Everything else is original...
 
Cranky said:
Is there something wrong with the hood not sitting all the way down from front to back on the driver's side? I too am getting rid of a lot of stuff.....a couple of cars and machinery/tooling etc and know the feeling when it gets time to let things go. It sucks. Been cleaning on some of the areas where the rust bunnies are trying to take over on one of the machines...another suck living close to the southern coast.

And please, no one ask what I have in this thread, thanks.
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No, it's just because the hood pins are not in, the hood sits fine...
 
Redbird said:
I personally wouldn’t be taking legal advice from jeff alder.

If it was your dad’s car and you, you and your brother, or some other combination got it after his passing. Then his heirs likely got it at the “stepped up basis” upon his death. If you don’t understand that, and even if you do, a suggestion would be to talk to a lawyer and a CPA.

It is not a survivor, it looks as if has been “Spray Bombed” including under the hood. Find as much about the history as you can. If the first owner has some old pictures, send him some money. Great color combination with the white bucket interior. If you can get it running and stopping, that will probably be well worth the effort. Is there mildew on the steering wheel? There is so much that you have left out, so pricing is virtually impossible at this point. Good luck!
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The original owner owned a MAACO body shop in the past and had his "people" spray it.. It had drips on the inner fenders and they sprayed over the windshield washer bottle... :wtf:

Dad had that redone by a different body shop back when he bought it...
 
moparedtn said:
Not sure why you chose to quote/reply to me on this....
I simply noted the reputed Sam Posey connection (that's the provenance part) and what the auction ended at.
Otherwise, I have no association with any of this deal, nor do I profess any knowledge of same.
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Redbird said:
Moparedtn,

I’m sorry if I offended you. I rarely post here, and I don’t really understand how to just add a comment. The system just seems goofy to me, and I appear to be not the only one. The system just picks up an old comment and attaches it. My comment was not directed towards anyone.
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Fixed it.
 
krazykuda said:
Yes, it's a factory V-code 440 six pack with the aluminum intake from the factory...

I have the buildsheet (somewhere), and the fender tag is still on it... No window sticker...
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FYI, 1970 cars came with a cast iron intake manifold. The aluminum manifold was on the A12 cars. That's not a deal breaker, but you've got to find the build sheet.

krazykuda said:
The original owner owned a MAACO body shop in the past and had his "people" spray it.. It had drips on the inner fenders and they sprayed over the windshield washer bottle... :wtf:

Dad had that redone by a different body shop back when he bought it...
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The horn is painted orange also. It's just more proof that he car needs and deserves a proper restoration.
 
Looks like different vavle covers with the fancy hold down wing nuts so maybe some of the top of the engine parts had been changed up ?
 
Redbird said:
Moparedtn,

I’m sorry if I offended you. I rarely post here, and I don’t really understand how to just add a comment. The system just seems goofy to me, and I appear to be not the only one. The system just picks up an old comment and attaches it. My comment was not directed towards anyone.

I liked the OP’s original pictures. Red car with a white bucket interior. Pretty cool and rare. I have only seen a couple like this. I have 49 years of owning wing cars. I lost interest in the WIW questions long before the cars hit the $ 5K sales price. My interests are the history; I have a whole lot of factory literature, jackets, posters and dealership items. I like the oddball cars like this one. And I could care less as to what it sells for.

It will be a while until I post again.
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With the 'like' buttons being right below the 'Quote' and 'Reply' buttons, it's not hard to accidentally hit the quote or like buttons. I've done it a few times myself and if you're using a phone to surf the site, imo it's even easier to make mistakes.
 
I'm sure I am going against the grain here however: Normally I wouldn't consider selling my Dad's car but it sounds like he didn't drive it that much but just kept it around. I think with the prices they bring you can get a bunch of cash for something that hasn't been used and enjoyed much and you'll be rid of the problem of having to store it somewhere. Car should really be gone through and then stored properly inside to preserve it. Superbirds are bringing really big dollars, restoring it properly would cost really big dollars as well. I'd dump it in an instant, only problem will be finding the method that is going to bring you the biggest return. Bring a Trailer perhaps? Guys here will have good suggestions on that.
 
krazykuda said:
The original owner owned a MAACO body shop in the past and had his "people" spray it.. It had drips on the inner fenders and they sprayed over the windshield washer bottle... :wtf:

Dad had that redone by a different body shop back when he bought it...
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I'm curious. What are the paint and trim codes on the fender tag?
 
I had a meeting earlier this week with my attorney, regarding transitioning out my current home, and into the old folks facility. The advice she gave me probably applies to this car as well. My home is in a blue chip neighborhood, houses priced to market typically sell in three days. House is in sound condition, but doesn't have all the shiny new bells and whistles like granite countertops and hardwood floors throughout. The lawyer said keep the transaction costs to a minimum, be realistic about the market value, don't perform any major upgrades. Current condition will appeal to more buyers, who can bring it to their preferred level later.

When I sold Baby Blue three years ago, I applied the same approach. The car was running, driving, tired paint, well documented. Buyer knew the car. No transaction costs. Best deal for all involved.
 
valve covers, intake (maybe) even interior... in the realm of a $200K car, those are low percentages to repair.

I think just running, driving, stopping would be a bigger deal at this point. Let the next person tidy it up or do whatever.
 
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