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Thanks for sharing. I have a borgeson on my 67 Belvedere just installed. About 100 miles so far, I’m with Kerndog this is an amazing upgrade. The flaming river box that was on before was sloppy and felt over boosted.
Thanks for the clarification - so I was wrong - if 1 shim is added it increases line pressure to the box, which the box likes, but has no impact on steering feel.
...in my shop to have three very different suspension set ups in very similar cars so decided to do a comparison test. A 1971 Plymouth Road Runner with a Magnum Force front suspension, a 1969 Plymouth GTX with all the Borgeson stuff done to it and a stock 440 Daytona. Hope you like the video!
I replaced my steering box with a new borgeson unit. Trying to install the pitman arm that was already on the car and it seemed to big. It wouldn’t turn when the steering shaft was turned. I figured my dad had put a different year steering box in and I needed the arm for the small sector shaft...
That car looks like my first one Silver with red interior, of course it was back on 1978 when I was a Kid. Sure wish I still had that one. What are the alignment specs that you use? I just rebuilt my front end and put the Borgeson steering box in it .Ill be taking it to get aligned soon.
Thanks
...wobbling all over the road :)
Steering Box recommendation: Right now, I am looking for just a replacement OEM. In the future, I will go Borgeson route - but have lots of other items on the list (front disc brake conversion kit, transmission work, etc) so would just like to have a box that...
A manual steering box might ... but I am pretty invested in keeping the Borgeson quick ratio power steering. Would really mess up my belt system, not needing a power steering pump.
If you like the feel, that makes sense.
I didn't have to cut anything in the 2 cars I swapped in a Borgeson. The hybrid coupler that Bergman includes in his kit makes the swap a direct bolt in.
...Shipping in conus only included. Cash, PP f&f, others possible, PM me. Near Cleveland OH.
Left to right....
Power to manual adapter -$120
Borgeson u joint from a B body big block complete steering kit (I used the Bergman)-$140
3"clamp, seal and retainer for factory size steering coupler...
Here's what I've got compared to the factory coupler -
And to the Borgeson coupler -
Borgeson developing surface rust after a few months of sitting indoors, with no weather exposure. Shame on Borgeson and Bergman. These parts are going on good collector cars, not Billy Bob's $200...
depends on which steering gear box. If it's stock it's one thing. I just had a higher pressure Borgeson box installed with stock PS pump and it calls for a different fluid to prevent foaming.
Can anyone tell me how to remove the valve section from the 800126 box? This is the part that the lines are connected to, the part is held on with 4 bolts. Will this just pull off over the steering shaft when unbolted. Is the any rebuild instruction published anywhere? The internet returns no...
...camber, caster and all the ball joints and bushings. Tires too.
If still an issue I'd look at the rebuilt boxes suggested above or the Borgeson unit.
Going back to manual you could still have the same slop but with steering that's a real pain in the *** when parking.
I had manual steering on...
...i went too quiet but it's nicer to drive..
And i 100% will be swapping back to power steering asap... the 20:1 box is just too much fighting to turn.. i need to find a 318LA pump/brackets or save up over winter for a borgeson...
1970 floor shift column from my charger. Went with an Ididit column instead. Comes with column bracket. Shaft was cut to use with a borgeson box. New wiring harness. Located in Burlington, KS. 500 obo plus shipping.
Did Borgeson or BAC ever say anything about the use of fast ratio pitman or idler arms? Are they compatible or not recommended with the borgeson setup? Can fast ratio cause any issues or is it just up to owners preference? I installed a new borgeson gear box kit, borgeson hoses and coupler with...
Re-visiting this thread to provide some steering response hands on assessment since I had KD install a Borgeson in my 68 Satellite several months back.
I've only had time for 3 short drives and KD's estimate of 35 out of 100 for steering effort is about right. Before I had FF Stage 2 without...
Hi guys, I bit the bullet and I am about to order a Borgeson 14:1 power steering box. All of the videos I see online involve dropping the steering column. Is there any way I can do this without dropping the column? Going from manual to power steering.