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383 vs. 383hp

exactly, the logs are 2bbl,the upswept are four barrel manifolds. if you have the correct VIN on your block, that is the Important thing. I didn't feel any difference in performance myself between the 330hp and 335hp engine, and my restoration books state Charger engines weren't stamped HP in 69, regardless of transmission. I had both 68 and 69 years ago, and they were H code vin and matching numbers, not stamped. So my cars reflected the Books I use today.
 
My original engine in my charger is long gone but has a 68 casting 383 engine in it now so I have nothing to go by other than the VIN on the dash and the fender tag.
 
At least you have a 69' charger, and titled 383? your car will be good with either, since the original is gone anyway. people won't care, chargers values are thru the roof. I can scan and email you the section referring to the 383 in the charger. it clearly states HP 383 engines weren't available in 69'. So, I would look for a date correct block if you want a 69' engine and go for it. Most people don't know the difference. My 68' is a factory 383 two barrel car with a 68' four barrel sport satellite 383 engine in it, no HP stamp. The value of the car is every bit as much as if that original engine was in it. So you have a great car. I have a E383 HP block if you really want a 69' engine. it is dated march 11 of 69. Even my 68 383 dart GTS numbers matching engine/transmission isn't stamped HP.
 
Its no biggy to me. I drive the crap out of the car as much as I can and I really don't have any extra cash right now to build up another motor. All of my money is going to the resto of my Dad's 69 GTX vert.

I just happen to remember the casting date of the block in my charger now as it shares my birthday (not the year) 7 / 22/ 68. My birthday is exactly 8 years after that! lol.
 
I'd like to see that 69 convertible, that is quite a car. You can't lose on the Charger. This numbers stuff is just a little to the extreme anymore. if mine match, fine. if they don't, I'm fine too. If your block is 7/22/68, that is likely a 69' anyway. Look at the pad date by the distributer. LoL
 
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This is the thread I started on the 69 GTX vert.

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?67715-Bringing-it-back-to-factory-specs
 
Beautiful charger, resq302. A guy can never see enough nice chargers. The colors and road wheels really make it.
 
383 hp or 383 non hp

Beautiful charger, resq302. A guy can never see enough nice chargers. The colors and road wheels really make it.
Good thing i have been following you guys on this, i was always wondering about the HP or non HP motors. Mine is a 69 blue block a c with 4 speed and no HP..
 
I used to have a 69' four speed 383 A/C car. it ran just great, I wish I had not sold that car. Pretty it was. I hoped the conversation helped out. The 68-69 chargers are the most sought after Mopars by the GM crowd when buying a collectible. So you can't lose if you own one.LoL
 
At least you have a 69' charger, and titled 383? your car will be good with either, since the original is gone anyway. people won't care, chargers values are thru the roof. I can scan and email you the section referring to the 383 in the charger. it clearly states HP 383 engines weren't available in 69'....

there's a lot of wrong info that's been repeated through the years. If you check any B body four speed non A/C broadcast sheet or Lynch road fender tag, you'll find the 925 engine assembly.

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Even my 68 383 dart GTS numbers matching engine/transmission isn't stamped HP.

Probably because there was only one A body 383 assembly where B bodies had two. There would be no reason to stamp an A body 383 to differentiate it from a different assembly.
 

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Very good !Thanks 69coronetrt. On the good side, apparently dodge did stamp some VIN# prior to 1 Jan. 68, My Dart build date is B16. , with the vin in the correct spot on the block and transmission.
 
wow! Always amazed at the amount of info on this site. Thanks to all
 
I say forget the E383 and just buy rustyratrod's 1969 383 (I guess that's an F383, right?) before he blows his lid down there in Georgia. Hell, he's practically giving the damn thing away.
 
I say forget the E383 and just buy rustyratrod's 1969 383 (I guess that's an F383, right?) before he blows his lid down there in Georgia. Hell, he's practically giving the damn thing away.

you would think there would be a picture of the car on the internet ad...and listed as ORIGINALLY a 383 4 speed it makes no reference to what/if it comes with an engine...may get more hits on the ad if that is known...
 
I say forget the E383 and just buy rustyratrod's 1969 383 (I guess that's an F383, right?) before he blows his lid down there in Georgia. Hell, he's practically giving the damn thing away.

Wait, I think I confused myself, 69 is an E code motor. So I repeat, rustyratrod has one for sale here on the site. He threatened to junk the thing, but it's freshly machined and needs assembly, so I be the still has it.

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you would think there would be a picture of the car on the internet ad...and listed as ORIGINALLY a 383 4 speed it makes no reference to what/if it comes with an engine...may get more hits on the ad if that is known...

Ya lost me there partner. He has an engine ad here somewhere, let me see of I can dig it up.

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Here ya go. It says sold but I'll bet he still has it. Oh, and it's a 68 motor, my confusion, as it seems has no bounds. but what the hell, who on earth will look at that little engine pad anyway?

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?69612-383-Short-block-ready-to-assemble
 
Another question, the two engines existed. What is the code for the 330hp, which was a distinct engine, and did E63 refer to both? One source says E65 was superbee/roadrunner, and another says E65 is the 300hp four barrel made in 71'.
 
Another question, the two engines existed. What is the code for the 330hp, which was a distinct engine, and did E63 refer to both? One source says E65 was superbee/roadrunner, and another says E65 is the 300hp four barrel made in 71'.


referring to 69 only.....

E63 and H in the VIN only tells you the car had a 383-4bbl. Remember there was the A body 383, the 330 horse B body, the 335 horse B body and the 330 horse C body assembly plus combinations of transmissions and with or without A/C. All were different assemblies with different horsepower ratings but all code E63 and H in the VIN.

sources indicating the H in the VIN = HP engine are incorrect as there are several versions of the 68-70 383 that are not considered HP.

Engine assembly numbers for '69:

A body 383 four speed 895
A body 383 automatic 896
B body 330 horse four speed with A/C- All B bodies 897
B body 330 horse automatic with A/C- All B bodies 899
B body 330 Horse automatic without A/C - All B bodies except Super Bee and Road Runner 900
B body 335 horse four speed without A/C - All B bodies. 925
B body 335 horse automatic without A/C - Super Bee and Road Runner 926

The HP with automatic and no A/C was exclusive to the SB/RR; the four speed was not.

C bodies- don't know yet.

1970 assembly numbers were different.

RE: 1971. With the introduction of the 360 into the line up, the 383-4bbl got bumped up from code E63 to E65.
 
That explains a great deal, but when the is guy standing near the car, what tells him which engine goes in the car. 330 , or 335?. I'm really looking for the book that translates from the three digit build sheet number, be it 925, 704(383 dart, or 707, 383 2bbl) these are 68' numbers) to the data tag. Curious I am! LoL
 
This school if fun, unlike the one i was forced to go to..

So i see 335 horse 4 speed without A/C - All b bodies. 925

What would be the code for 335 horse 4 speed with A/C ..

Cheers 69Coronetrt..
 
We need to put 69coronetrt to work! I know he loves this, he's just not saying!
 
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