426 HEMI

[383MovingViolation]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162126037811?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Okay, it's not mine but help yourself before it's gone........IF you have a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$. A completely rebuilt 426 HEMI engine.

 

[Mike67]

Jeeeze!!! $34k???

 

[Bladecutter]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162126037811?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Okay, it's not mine but help yourself before it's gone........IF you have a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$. A completely rebuilt 426 HEMI engine.

Did You see the one with roots blower for 22k? Theres another for 14k, but say its a 440 w/ hemi heads. They are definitely hemi heads......news to me....plus one more ad claiming 440 hemi.
Were there 440 hemis?? Never heard of such, but my Mopah knowledge isnt that well honed.....so im asking a stupid question

 

[ws23jrt]

Their are no "stupid" questions. There are however stupid sellers.

Some sellers are actually not selling but just fishing.

 

[ws23jrt]

The "numbers" question (from what I gathered from the ad) are that this will match for 1969 production year.

If one has a car (like I do) that is missing the original engine (that would match the vin) the special value of this being a 69 engine goes down for me because of the lack of the vin.

In my case I have a 67 block engine and it is vertually as new. I see no signaficant value difference given that both engines (my 67 block engine and this 69 block engine) are not the originals.

The only way I could understand someone paying that kind of money is if they had the car that that engine came from.---Unless the car they had was a rust pile---

 

[Richard Cranium]

For 34 grand, he should have at least painted the pulleys, fan & PS pump semi gloss instead of flat....and given the correct PS pump while he was at it. You would also think you would get exhaust manifold bolts, carb & manifold heat tubes, correct hoses and the motor mount brackets painted the color they are supposed to be.

File under "douche bag seller".

 

[BeatersRus]

Did You see the one with roots blower for 22k? Theres another for 14k, but say its a 440 w/ hemi heads. They are definitely hemi heads......news to me....plus one more ad claiming 440 hemi.
Were there 440 hemis?? Never heard of such, but my Mopah knowledge isnt that well honed.....so im asking a stupid question

Jimi,i looked around but couldnt find any links to the info i wanted.
so,as i < recall < bitd dick landy industries used to sell a 440 Conversion set of hemi heads??
these were actual hemi port shaped heads,and required Quite a bit of work to make the motor ready to take them.
hopefully someone with more knowledge will pop up.

here ya go i found a diff link.
http://www.stagev.com/pages/hcheads.html

 

[ws23jrt]

I have a 69 hemi block that was converted/machined and drilled/tapped to accept ---wedge heads.---

It has since been repaired from that conversion to be a hemi block again. The threaded holes were filled and the deck surfaced so it can again use hemi heads.

I've always wondered about the motivations people have for doing what they do?

Has anyone information about why one spend money and effort to do this?

 

[khryslerkid]

For 34 grand, he should have at least painted the pulleys, fan & PS pump semi gloss instead of flat....and given the correct PS pump while he was at it. You would also think you would get exhaust manifold bolts, carb & manifold heat tubes, correct hoses and the motor mount brackets painted the color they are supposed to be.

File under "douche bag seller".

And apparently, he didn't get the memo on Fram oil filters...

 

[Bladecutter]

Jimi,i looked around but couldnt find any links to the info i wanted.
so,as i < recall < bitd dick landy industries used to sell a 440 Conversion set of hemi heads??
these were actual hemi port shaped heads,and required Quite a bit of work to make the motor ready to take them.
hopefully someone with more knowledge will pop up.

here ya go i found a diff link.
http://www.stagev.com/pages/hcheads.html

Heads are gorgeous. Answers my question, Mopar never produced a hemi 440.
You know i met Dandy Dick with the foot long stoge clamped in His teeth 24/7 a few times. He built & maintaned, rebuilt my Brother's drag boat motor. Black Rush'n....a 426 warmed to 522(boat's number)dual scintilla vertex mags, a wieand major hi rise w/ dual 1500 cfm Holleys. Dick was at almost all the races.....doing final tunes on His motors......never used timing light, just laid his ear to engine and twisted the hearts.
Thanks for enligjtening me Beat!
The Rush'n record from 1974, under old old start rule(275 ft pair up to lights)never got broken. UGF, 135mph in lo 9's, in True, liquid 1/4
mile. Had a famous Mopah in Family........Mike kicks himself in *** frequently over letting the Hondo Black Rush'n go. Started in Sanger hulls, shifted to Hondo, then in 75 or 76 shifted to Brendella, but Always the Landy Mopah. Then when Dick built the all aluminum motor, Mike said i think the iron motor will still outdo it....a shootout between motors ensued, with money on the table.......iron motor took it.

 

[BeatersRus]

I have a 69 hemi block that was converted/machined and drilled/tapped to accept ---wedge heads.---

It has since been repaired from that conversion to be a hemi block again. The threaded holes were filled and the deck surfaced so it can again use hemi heads.

I've always wondered about the motivations people have for doing what they do?

Has anyone information about why one spend money and effort to do this?

if you go read that link i posted youll see why they put hemi heads on a 440..supposedly theyll do better than a hemi.
( bold claims methinks?? )
however..putting 440 heads on a hemi?
thats odd.
maybe they were installing the motor in a Real tight chassis??
and this was their...option??

lol,btw,it occurred to me ive seen you mention at least 2 spare hemis you have laying around.
you got a big old barn do ya? ;)

To Jimi,you guys should track down that boat,its a piece of Mopar history.
a Real piece.

 

[Bladecutter]

I have a 69 hemi block that was converted/machined and drilled/tapped to accept ---wedge heads.---

It has since been repaired from that conversion to be a hemi block again. The threaded holes were filled and the deck surfaced so it can again use hemi heads.

I've always wondered about the motivations people have for doing what they do?

Has anyone information about why one spend money and effort to do this?

This makes me think of my Favorite Daytona, Mario Rossi challenging dick franz's ridiculous ruling for winged cars in 1970....restricting them to 305.....Rossi, the only taker for 1970 Daytona 500. Kieth Black built a destroked 340 T/A block, special cast one off, physically oversized heads that accepted reworked 426 valve train. #22 car, Bobby Allison's 1969 ride, Richard Brooks drove. Dick Franz had babies that day, Brooks almost pulled it off. Took early lead, got too ambitious coming out ofva high bank, got sideways, Pete Hamilton t-boned him and completed wiped side of 22, bumper to bumper, (had to have desquared whlbse), Brooks used up most of straight and lot of infield recovering, losing a lot of places, but it was a sweet recovery, got back into fray & clawed His way back to seventh before checkered fell. I understand that the "lunch box"(nick for motor) ran flat out @ 10,500 rpm for entire race....roughly 2.5 hrs, right. To me, that is heroics.
Finished seventh with a 100 + ci disadvantage in a damaged car. Tickles me, i love underdogs. I wonder who has that engine??
Yep, i bet franz was white knuckling for a while.....i know one thing that helped Richard get back to seventh after the chaos.....pushing 200 or so less lbs in front, less brake and tire wear.... One can make the big block carve, but you cant change the physics & loads of centrifugal force & weight. BB is just going to use up edgesof front tires faster.
Now thats a Daytona i would DIE to have.....even just drive a few hott lapps!

 

[Bladecutter]

if you go read that link i posted youll see why they put hemi heads on a 440..supposedly theyll do better than a hemi.
( bold claims methinks?? )
however..putting 440 heads on a hemi?
thats odd.
maybe they were installing the motor in a Real tight chassis??
and this was their...option??

lol,btw,it occurred to me ive seen you mention at least 2 spare hemis you have laying around.
you got a big old barn do ya? ;)

To Jimi,you guys should track down that boat,its a piece of Mopar history.
a Real piece.

Mike takes up the hunt once in a while....i read of somebody building a clone to the Hondo in 2012. The Rush'n was a very pretty boat, all the rails & aluminum hardware, motor mounts, vee drive housing were all highly polished & black anodized...it was sexy as hell. I Pulled it around west end of country in 75, 76 with a 454 double cab dualie in matching colors....that was fun. One can hope it may come out of hiding, Bro would buy it back in heartbeat. He pounded out another speed record @ world finals, Firebird, Nov 76 in Gene Deaver's BFH, Blood, Sweat n' Nitro @ 206mph...days before capsules.
Was Deaver Hull with a Kieth Black/Donovan motor. Given a choice between a shot at a BFH and a rail or funny car......id take the boat hands down.......just the hairball factor....too much to resist. God i saw a LOT of boats take off and result in glass splinters. Cant remember name,,Al something, a Fireman in Crazy Horse....BFF....i saw Him go through a lot of hulls before the top fuel flats were outlawed. Fortunately, i never saw anybody get hurt....saw a share of bodies skipping like rocks on a pond though. I guess now the Crazzee fux actually ratchet strap into those pods to do Houdini if they get pitched, sitting at bottom unable to release themselves, capsule full of water, breathing a limited supply of oxygen, waiting for crane boat to hook and haul them up. Y-yikes.
Last Yrs World finals Had an 'Old Shoe' reunion, which Mike was invited to. He said that the Pilots, Wives and Priests have a Prayer before each run. Mike said He didnt think He could bring Himself to that one, He'd prefer open boat w/o question. He got pitched once, a BGH called Mudhen, @ 150 roughly, said he was surprised he didnt fill his pants, **** was happening real fast.......Speed Baby....what we all here Love,, just cant get enuf of.

 

[Budnicks]

Crazy horse, It's Al Bush & the owners were Pete & Marlene Kaiser,
my old next door neighbors...
Joe Pisano {& bros.} Keith Black Paul Phaff Raymond Beadle Ed Pink
Ed Mondello Mert Littlefield Bob Christy etc.
"the Long Beach gang"
Pete is still a great tuner/builder, does nostalgia stuff...
Know them all very well RIP Al {mid 7's @ 181mph IIRC}
I once asked Al how many of the boats did he wreck/sink or
that he broke the records in, he said "all of them"...
The real/true record holders of BFF, too long ago can't remember
the real #'s, it was never broken, the class was eliminated...
Too many died...

way to stay on topic,
veered way out in left field...
Like normal...

I don't want a response, just stating facts...



not the record run, I don't think Bakersfield 1978

 

[Budnicks]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162126037811?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Okay, it's not mine but help yourself before it's gone........IF you have a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$. A completely rebuilt 426 HEMI engine.

They should no drink the bong water...
ridiculous price...

good for them, if they could get it...
I don't think they will...
I've been wrong before...

 

[BeatersRus]

way to stay on topic,
veered way out in left field...
Like normal...

I don't want a response, just stating facts...

im not understanding the burn here....
seeing as the Pros had said their piece,and showed us whats up,
i seriously find no fault in discussing hemis if they be in a car or a boat.
and how far out in left field did we go again?
seems to me we are still talking about hemis?

thank you for posting the hemi boats too Budnick.
hope you are feeling better shortly.

 

[snakeoil24]

hemi's get ridiculous prices on purpose! it's not for everyone.

 

[Photon440]

putting 440 heads on a hemi?
thats odd.
maybe they were installing the motor in a Real tight chassis??
and this was their...option??

Allpar mentions: On July 4, 1971, four cars with 426 cubic inch versions of the 440 with ported 440 heads were entered in the Daytona Grand National race, and they finished 1-2-3-4.
(This was the Firecracker 400, race results are http://www.driveraverages.com/nascar_stats/race.php?sked_id=1971027 )
Perhaps the 440 head conversion was one of these engines?

 

[ws23jrt]

Allpar mentions: On July 4, 1971, four cars with 426 cubic inch versions of the 440 with ported 440 heads were entered in the Daytona Grand National race, and they finished 1-2-3-4.
(This was the Firecracker 400, race results are http://www.driveraverages.com/nascar_stats/race.php?sked_id=1971027 )
Perhaps the 440 head conversion was one of these engines?

That is interesting. Here's some pics of the engine block.
Their are some chamfers at the top of the bores as well as some holes filled on the deck. It is a 69 block with no numbers stamped on the raised surface by the water pump mount or on the sides by the pan mount surface.
Also a window repair.

 

[mmissile]

I tell people about the wedge heads on hemi's for nascar, and they look at me like I'm nuts or call BS. I just laugh.