American health care

[oldbee]

Anymore I treat the medical "professionals"? like a general grease monkey. That diploma on your wall doesn't mean you actually learned how to treat people just because you copied off someone else's homework. Lots of dumb, lazy "pro's" out there. When all they want to do is throw meds at you instead of figuring out what the problem is, and using their head for something besides a hat rack, it's time to find another "mechanic". Why is it people expect perfection out of their car repair and can't get the same with the "medical profession"? Maybe if they, and ambulance chasers, had to take care of comebacks like in the auto world, they might get their feces together.

Helluva question on “comebacks”, often wondered that myself. Maybe ‘Geff ’ could answer that one.

 

[Hey-O]

You have to stand up to these people. If he thinks he's better than you, he needs to go, period. I've sat at the round table with doctors that are really proud of themselves and I will guarantee you they have their share of inabilities.

 

[cr8crshr]

Anymore I treat the medical "professionals"? like a general grease monkey. That diploma on your wall doesn't mean you actually learned how to treat people just because you copied off someone else's homework. Lots of dumb, lazy "pro's" out there. When all they want to do is throw meds at you instead of figuring out what the problem is, and using their head for something besides a hat rack, it's time to find another "mechanic". Why is it people expect perfection out of their car repair and can't get the same with the "medical profession"? Maybe if they, and ambulance chasers, had to take care of comebacks like in the auto world, they might get their feces together.

For as long as I have been seeing Docs, both in the civilian world and through the Military/VA, many of the Docs have just stated, take this med/pill, and moved on. Sadly, our society has become a "Take this pill, and hope it either goes away," or you get better mentality. I also mean that every commercial these days one sees on the Boob Tube is for some sort of medication, which may cause you bodily and health harm/damage, these huge pharmaceutical conglomerates push at every instance. We are nothing but a drug culture and society. Add to that the illegal drugs that are killing more and more, and it is no wonder we are so addicted...Enough already!!! cr8crshr/Bill

 

[68BabyBlue]

For as long as I have been seeing Docs, both in the civilian world and through the Military/VA, many of the Docs have just stated, take this med/pill, and moved on. Sadly, our society has become a "Take this pill, and hope it either goes away," or you get better mentality. I also mean that every commercial these days one sees on the Boob Tube is for some sort of medication, which may cause you bodily and health harm/damage, these huge pharmaceutical conglomerates push at every instance. We are nothing but a drug culture and society. Add to that the illegal drugs that are killing more and more, and it is no wonder we are so addicted...Enough already!!! cr8crshr/Bill

This makes me appreciate my primary care doctor even more. She is a proponent of lifestyle modifications before medications, but is pretty sharp about tweaking meds to get the desired result with the minimum of drugs. She also goes outside the rails to see her regular patients on short notice if the need arises, the trick is to call day of, and schedule a late afternoon visit, she can double book.

I was impressed when I met her for the first time on a DOT physical, which is a minimal, closely scripted event. She addressed two issues not related to my certification, never had that happen before. She obviously cared about her patients, and was anything but a hack. I hope she doesn't burn out from working under a corporate health care provider.

 

[cr8crshr]

This makes me appreciate my primary care doctor even more. She is a proponent of lifestyle modifications before medications, but is pretty sharp about tweaking meds to get the desired result with the minimum of drugs. She also goes outside the rails to see her regular patients on short notice if the need arises, the trick is to call day of, and schedule a late afternoon visit, she can double book.

I was impressed when I met her for the first time on a DOT physical, which is a minimal, closely scripted event. She addressed two issues not related to my certification, never had that happen before. She obviously cared about her patients, and was anything but a hack. I hope she doesn't burn out from working under a corporate health care provider.

After seeing numerous VA-assigned PCMs, some with limited English abilities...very hard to understand...I finally got an American Doc, son of a Veteran Military Doctor, and we hit it off from the first. I actually can talk with him on just about any topic, both medical and not, so I'm having great results with him. I asked him when we first met, how long he is planning to practice through the VA, and he said to me, I have no interest in changing where I practice for a long time. That made our relationship start off on a very positive note. Plus, I can usually get into seeing him at just about any time, so that even helps. Also, add to that that when we do have appointments, he is glad that I have always been up on treatments, meds, alternatives, etc., which helps us both come to sound medical decisions. Granted, I can also use the Civilian side of healthcare and not have to pay for that as well, but when one finds a keeper at whatever they are needing for their assistance, that is always a plus...The medical arena here in Reno, NV is really top-notch as UNR School of Medicine is co-located with a number of hospitals and includes the VA, so the teaching aspect here in the community is also a plus...cr8crshr/Bill

 

[Don selleck]

Another story of a friend that had a tore muscle in his chest, could not get it healed up seemed to come and go he said, got so bad that he could hardly breath. Went to the e.r. he was having a heart attack, the doctor in the er said that by looking at the scar tissue he's had several prior attacks. they put a stent in and seems to be ok now. And no more pulled chest muscle. Seems like they just don't follow up on anything, on a good note my wife has an awesome doctor, she's a woman was thinking about seeing if she is accepting new patients. Don't get sick in Michigan its a crap shoot.

 

[ckessel]

Same out here on the left coast in our immediate area. Want competent pro's when it really matters? Need to drive at least 4 hours north or south. And you really need to push for it.

 

[Don selleck]

 

[F4R/T]

You have to stand up to these people. If he thinks he's better than you, he needs to go, period. I've sat at the round table with doctors that are really proud of themselves and I will guarantee you they have their share of inabilities.

Well said Ulli! They are like us mechanics, we all know something and non, not a one, know it all.. There are lots of brilliant minds in the medical field that do want to help,we just have to find the one we connect with. They are equal and that’s it. Glad to hear you friend is doing well.

 

[Budnicks]

Anymore I treat the medical "professionals"? like a general grease monkey. That diploma on your wall doesn't mean you actually learned how to treat people just because you copied off someone else's homework. Lots of dumb, lazy "pro's" out there. When all they want to do is throw meds at you instead of figuring out what the problem is, and using their head for something besides a hat rack, it's time to find another "mechanic". Why is it people expect perfection out of their car repair and can't get the same with the "medical profession"? Maybe if they, and ambulance chasers, had to take care of comebacks like in the auto world, they might get their feces together.

That's exactly my (long winded) point prior...

treat the issues & not cure the ailments

just people mechanics

just like automotive, some aren't worth a crap, still get full payment

 

[#41]

Have had a few friends die here way sooner than they should have with some questionable actions by physicians. Wondering if this happens in your state, town etc.

Lost a pal last year for cancer misdiagnosed not once, but twice.

Remember when you got sick as kid, mom called the doctor and you got in that day, and nobody worried about the cost? I am a capitalist - it's what built this great country.... but it is completely clear that capitalism must be mostly stripped from our healthcare system.

 

[Don selleck]

I agree, but Capitalism has breed some of the best doctors in the world but when greed overpowers common sense and compassion, well here we are imo. sorry about your friend.

 

[F4R/T]

Well said^^^^

 

[Don selleck]

I just want the best for everyone, I started this thread to hear what others are experiencing across the country and across the world, thank you all for acting like adults and keeping this from being political.