rad savoy
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63 savoy .440, dougs headers - replacing leaky power steering with borgeson . will I have to pull the header or raise the engine or both for this install, borgeson said no but I think they lied.
63 savoy .440, dougs headers - replacing leaky power steering with borgeson . will I have to pull the header or raise the engine or both for this install, borgeson said no but I think they lied.
This Borgeson how-to was just posted today. It’s a 1969 model, but might give you an idea.
https://moparconnectionmagazine.com...69-super-bee-back-on-the-straight-and-narrow/
So Worth it..Thanks for posting that! I just wish I had the coin to spring for that kit right now...
I just finished this mod. I honestly think it was super easy. I pulled my entire column, and to measure, cut, and install I had maybe 4 hours in total. I sandblasted and painted my column during this time too. The most difficult part was taking the correct measurement for the column. Borgeson directions are a little off. I measured from the top of the large hole in the firewall to the tip of the coupler (separate part you need to buy) then I added approximately 1.5 inches to my measurement. Cut it down with a saw, then drilled the three tap holes for roll pins and it was done.
I did decide to convert from a Saginaw pump to a federal style from Borgeson, and I’m having some clearance issues with my electric fans but all in it was an easy process. No lifting of the car was required, and I have Doug’s Headers.
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Wouldn't it have been easier to use Bergman Autocraft's adapter so you wouldn't have to cut the column and all of that? That's good info on the Doug's headers because I run those too...
Sounds like your k member is the issue, maybe your frame is bent?I started this “swap” on Feb 8th. It has been a f-ing nightmare! I think every problem you could encounter while doing this job, I have encountered.. I can only work on the car on weekends so progress has been very slow. And having continuous problems along the way makes it even slower.
First time I got the new Borgeson box on the K-Frame the input shaft was pointing towards the inner fender. The stock box I took out did NOT do this! Input shaft alignment was much better. The two upper mounting bolts won’t seat. Doesn’t fit flush on the k-frame mounting surface.. I’ve had to remove the box and assess what the hell to do next. So far it’s been a disaster. That’s my experience with it..
I'm starting my own thread, to get some input on how to overcome my current blocker on my Borgeson installation, which are two of the mounting bolt holes/bolts. The input shaft pointing towards the inner fender appears to be engineered into the Borgeson box by design. The mounting ear surfaces are at a 4.5 degree slant in relation to the input shaft. Why would they design the casting like that? Leaves me asking WTF??Sounds like your k member is the issue, maybe your frame is bent?
I'm starting my own thread, to get some input on how to overcome my current blocker on my Borgeson installation, which are two of the mounting bolt holes/bolts. The input shaft pointing towards the inner fender appears to be engineered into the Borgeson box by design. The mounting ear surfaces are at a 4.5 degree slant in relation to the input shaft. Why would they design the casting like that? Leaves me asking WTF??
I am going to contact them and ask them that question. I can't believe this box was actually designed to mount on a classic MOPAR K-Frame... I can see why they make a U-Joint coupler, as you'll never get a remotely straight couple to the steering column using this box, unless your gearbox mounting surface is at a 4.5 slant towards the engine. Mine is parallel to the firewall.. I'll elaborate more in my own thread.
You don't even have a stock K-Frame on your car. At least it doesn't look like a stock K-Frame in the photo.
I’m not sure why you are so mad? I just installed this box and it was a breeze. The QA1 k member that I just installed has identical mounting points as the stock K member. I know this because I had the factory steering box in the car with the QA1 k member with no modifications. Again, you are doing something wrong, OR something is wrong with your k member. Chill out and take a deep breath dude, it’s just a car.