Buyer Beware- Ws08
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CudaChick1968
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Banning a user does little good; they can create a new one in a few seconds and continue to prey on more victims. It's happened with all of these repeat offenders time and again ... and eventually a moderator or admin checks the IP address and, well whaddya know!, he's had five screen names in three years and giggled his *** off all the way to the bank in the meantime.
Cool site software, neat graphics and new apps are all fine and good, but until there's an alert system in place that immediately notifies of the return of a banned member trying to create another new identity, we will all continue to get ripped off, write and read threads like these.
I had my own problem with a predator on FABO. It took enlisting the FBI to get rid of him ... and he's continued to create new names and bad Karma in the Mopar world time and again ever since.
Just my two cents .... which ain't worth much.
Cool site software, neat graphics and new apps are all fine and good, but until there's an alert system in place that immediately notifies of the return of a banned member trying to create another new identity, we will all continue to get ripped off, write and read threads like these.
I had my own problem with a predator on FABO. It took enlisting the FBI to get rid of him ... and he's continued to create new names and bad Karma in the Mopar world time and again ever since.
Just my two cents .... which ain't worth much.
Ranger16
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There is a system available. I am a mod over at Cadillacforums and we have a detection system that does just that. Perhaps admin want to look into it. It works pretty well. We catch 'em left and right. Here is the explanation as posted to the Mods there.
"This forum is for our Alter-Ego Detector. The system works by placing a tracking cookie on a member's computer. If they have more than one account, the system will automatically create a thread here with a report of the accounts detected. It will look like this: (example from another forum)
Thread title: Quadracers tripped AE Detector
Thread post: Quadracers seems to have multiple personalities using sparkyracer3 and Quadracers sharing the same computer. No soup for you! and you! and you!
The underlined names are linked to their profile.
For users who seem to be legitimate, please send a PM to one of the accounts. Explain to them that we were notified about them having multiple accounts, and ask for an explanation. The most common reason is that they had an account and forgot their login info so they created a new one. Other reasons could be they have a relative or roommate or whatever that's also on the forums and that's why the system caught them.
In either case, send a PM and then record the reason in its applicable thread here. We'll decide a course of action after - usually merging of the accounts.
In spam cases, it's obvious. Example:
rich1 seems to have multiple personalities using shaun1 and mit12 and james12 and jefftomi and pollock and nick1 and jeffbacher and solomd and rich1 sharing the same computer. No soup for you! and you! and you!
In that case, I recorded the IP addresses for each account and ended up banning the entire block. (117.198.*.*) I've had no new registrations from this computer since doing that.
FYI, this system only works with desktop computers (PC & Mac).
Unfortunately it does not work on mobile devices (smartphones & tablets)."
moparnation74
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Maybe Joey can chime in as to whether or not he has this software in place...
What was the cost of that software?
Car Nut
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Ranger16
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BTSOM, I'm just a mod there. Seems to me it was in place when the previous (original) site owner had it. The site is now owned by some large car forum conglomerate, but I think I could put Joey in touch with the original site owner if he has any interest.
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I just saw this, but saw the ad on my local Craigslist a while ago. I am near Roanoke, and see the ad was on Roanoke Craigslist AND Norfolk Craigslist. The 434 area code is for Lynchburg, which is 50 miles from Roanoke, and 150 miles from Norfolk. And Lynchburg has it's own Craigslist too. Something fishy........
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No software can detect different IP adresses created by an IP generator. Anyone with multipersonality disorder can have 100 screen names.
I have the software -- I don't want to get into it here where anyone can see it. But I have it installed already.
And I know the original owner of Cadillacforums personally (Sal).... as well as the people at Vertical scope, who now owns CF.
bigmanjbmopar
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I hate scammers and scum bags got my share of that **** recently just sux glad it sounds like its working out.
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You didn't destroy anyone's rep etc....they are the ones that destroyed themselves when they decided to be scumbag thieves...
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Dreamcatcher
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It would seem that we in this hobby (and this site) have really become bombarded with scams as of late(no names intended or implied). It has been my experience that the first sign of a scam is someone asking for a bank transfer or money transfer by wire. This is where you play along and irritate the heck out of them by asking questions till they get mad. These are almost untraceable and bam there gone. Trust me this is experience talking (nuff said).
Not really --- Its dealing on the internet in general. Craigslist has had scams like this for years.
Dreamcatcher
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Yes as well as ebay and more. You just have to really keep your guard up anymore as it seems to be more common.
eBay has improved over the years, but a lot of that is because they require things to go through paypal.
bigmanjbmopar
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The best defense is a good offense, my lesson learned was take off the rose colored glasses and educate yourself before diving into a transaction.
Dreamcatcher
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I got scammed through pay-pal/ebay a few years ago. I can tell you that if you sell and ship things 1. insure everything and 2. require a signature as proof of delivery every time. Even with a tracking number people can say they didn't get it. And pay-pal will refund there money from your account. I know of three people that have had this happen. All I am saying is use every tool to protect your self. My little mistake cost me 1300.00. They told me it was delivered and someone took it before they got home.
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Whenever I have something expensive shipped to my home, I make sure someone is going to be here on delivery day. UPS and Fedup usually run at pretty much the same times but UPS is more consistent. Only during holiday season do they run late so it's not too hard to be hanging out when the truck shows up. In the 32 years of living here, I've never had anyone steal a package from my doorstep. Probably doesn't hurt much that I'm usually open carrying too
Car Nut
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Was there a police report made, this happened to a package I shipped. The guy did not report it to the police, but hurried and reported it stolen from his front porch to FedEx. FedEx reimburse him and now claims he did not receive the refund either. Nothing was never report to the police or post office.
Car Nut
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I will have expensive packages left at the shipping company from now on.
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