Can I pull my a-833 without a trans jack? Any other tips???

[jenkins71]

Hey DUDES!!! I need to pull the 4 speed out of my 71 Charger w/ 440. I have a couple leaks and it is popping out of 2nd gear. So she's comin' OUT!!!

Now, I don't have a tranny jack. Can I do this job without one? I DO have a nice big floor jack from Harbor Freight (love those HF floor jacks).

Can I just strap it to the jack?

Can I just "muscle" it out with the help of another guy?

What about one of these plates that goes on top of a regular floor jack: http://www.amazon.com/Performance-T...728&sr=8-2&keywords=transmission+jack+adapter

Any other special tips on how to get this mother out? My driveshaft and shifter are off of it, what's next, take the crossmember off of it?


And how to get it back IN? When I put it all in, it was attached to the motor.

THANKS DUDES!!!!!!!!!

 

[super-bee_ski]

Strap or balance it to the Jack.
Place a piece of wood on Jack pad, lower it down.

When I pulled Muncies off a Pontiac, they are aluminum cases, much lighter than a Cast Iron Mopar.
But, you can go to Harbor Freight and use the trans jack
I think they are $50 bucks.
(I finally bought one)

 

[HEMI-ITIS]

:eusa_whistle:The HF trans jack is nice to have

 

[Cranky]

I've done several removals and installs just using a floor jack...and didn't even use any wood. If the jack has a normal size swivel base, it'll work well because the somewhat rounded bottom of the 4 speed will sit in it pretty good.

 

[Dibbons]

I've done it without any jacks. When it came down to the floor, the trunion coupler on the tailshaft (this was a 64 Barracuda 4 speed) smashed my little finger to the concrete garage floor and almost cut it off. Should have gotten sutures, but decided to just cuss my fool head off for a long time and wait for the bleeding to stop. Still have the scar to prove it.

 

[Daves69]

IMO, They come down a little easier than they go up. At very least use a jack. I'd pull the fork out first. Plug the tail shaft. An extra yoke comes in handy there. The input shaft will likely hang on the crank bushing/bearing. Installing a couple longer bolts can help guide it out of the bushing straighter and keep the nose from dropping on you as it comes out. You may need to click in a gear and twist the trans back and forth while pulling. Don't let the input shaft drop onto the bell housing. You don't want to crack that bearing retainer tube.

 

[jenkins71]

Awesome, thanks guys. I think I am going to try the long bolt technique combined with use of a large floor Jack.

Anyone know off hand the thread size of the bolts that attach it transmission to the bell, so I can pick some long ones up after work? Thanks!

 

[65Fury440]

I have dropped a bunch out without any jack by myself, always had a helper to put back in.

 

[Hemirunner]

I used to do it in the yard with no jack and no help when I was in high school. Not fun at all.

 

[uwss]

When I did mine; I jacked my car up. Used a floor jack to support it. Remove all the bolts and U joint. Out it came. No big deal. Its harder getting it in by yourself than pulling it. I tore mine completely down. Installed all new syncros. I filled it up with Royal Purple synthetic gear oil 90 weight.

 

[Cranky]

Awesome, thanks guys. I think I am going to try the long bolt technique combined with use of a large floor Jack.

Anyone know off hand the thread size of the bolts that attach it transmission to the bell, so I can pick some long ones up after work? Thanks!

IIRC, they are 7/16". Ideally, finding some all thread and just cutting them to length would work but better yet is to find someone that can thread some 7/16's round bar with just enough thread to install then into the bell housing then you can lube the part that the trans slides on. They don't need to be very long....a few inches will be plenty.

 

[Daves69]

Incidentally, especially for small block folks, after removing the cross member, keep an eye on any components clearing the firewall as you lower the trans.

 

[Bruzilla]

Funny story... in 1980, I was at NAS Jacksonville and my roommate Mopar buddy bought an old 69 Roadrunner with an 833 that he wanted to swap into his Superbird. He woke me and another friend of his up one early Saturday morning and asked us to help him drop the trans.

The plan was we would hold the trans up from either side while he unbolted it and slid it out. We had no jacks or anything but our hands to hold it up. Needless to say, that didn't turn out too well.

 

[747mopar]

I've never used a trans jack so yes. My latest tranny swap was stepping up from a 727 to a T56 neither of which are as light as an 833, I slide them under the car they set them on my chest muscling them into play by hand. Once you get the splines engaged it frees a hand up to start the bolts. Now I'll mention I was a bit soar afterwards but it got done haha.

 

[Daves69]

Funny story... in 1980, I was at NAS Jacksonville and my roommate Mopar buddy bought an old 69 Roadrunner with an 833 that he wanted to swap into his Superbird. He woke me and another friend of his up one early Saturday morning and asked us to help him drop the trans.

The plan was we would hold the trans up from either side while he unbolted it and slid it out. We had no jacks or anything but our hands to hold it up. Needless to say, that didn't turn out too well.

Lol, But ya' got it out'a there didn't ya'?


I had a lot of 727 r&r experience (most bad and mostly my fault) on my '68 RR. Dad's driveway was the two strips of concrete with gravel in the center. Throw cardboard on the gravel. Make sure you have CORRECT bolts ready and within reach. Position the trans on it's side. Roll onto your side chest against the pan. Leg under tail housing. Grab sides of trans and roll it up on top of ya' as you roll onto your back. Lift trans into place with arms and a leg. Holding it in place on the block pins with one hand and leg, grab a bolt and get it started.

I did the 4 speed change over on that car in the same driveway using the same method. I was 18 or so then.

Again, at the very least, use a jack!

 

[Cranky]

Lol, But ya' got it out'a there didn't ya'?


I had a lot of 727 r&r experience (most bad and mostly my fault) on my '68 RR. Dad's driveway was the two strips of concrete with gravel in the center. Throw cardboard on the gravel. Make sure you have CORRECT bolts ready and within reach. Position the trans on it's side. Roll onto your side chest against the pan. Leg under tail housing. Grab sides of trans and roll it up on top of ya' as you roll onto your back. Lift trans into place with arms and a leg. Holding it in place on the block pins with one hand and leg, grab a bolt and get it started.

I did the 4 speed change over on that car in the same driveway using the same method. I was 18 or so then.

Again, at the very least, use a jack!

Swapping out an 8 3/4 chunk using that method is a lot easier but using a jack with that is even easier! Man, to be young, dumb, broke and single again lol

 

[ckessel]

For many years I used a 1 1/2 ton jack to pop the 833 out of my Duster, so yes you can do it. I finally got the hang of doing it on my own, which was fun since the jack pad was only 3" wide. When you are doing the replacement, thread some old long head bolts, with the heads cut off, into the bell housing so the trans will just slide right in. The bolts help line up the trans and cut down on the wiggle and cuss factor when you are trying to mate it back up.

 

[Moparsmitty]

I've got an adapter similar to the one in this Ebay ad that I've used several times with my 2 ton floor jack. Works pretty well and feels a lot more stable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transmissio...ORM-Automotive-Floor-Jack-Trans-/311548020035

 

[jenkins71]

Thanks so much for the great info dudes.
I called Brewer's, and talked to one of the tech guys. He said I should mail him my 2nd gear and he would have a look at it, and machine it if necessary.
So, with your all's tips in mind, I will try to get the tranny pulled this weekend!
-Sam

 

[Auggie56]

How much is your life or well being worth ? Borrow, rent or buy a trans jack, so we can hear from you how the repair went.