Do they still hot tank motors?

[dadsbee]

As far as I know Molson's still does so.. and based on the rash on the bottles in every case I know so. Lastest article I can find is 2013.. sorted, inspected, washed and refilled. Recycled/crushed and back into the bottle making plant cullet pile when they're at end of life.
https://torontoist.com/2013/04/what...er-store/slide/20130418_hum0081-drostphoto-4/

 

[Slap Stick]

That is the exception and not the rule.
Bottles...heck, glass jars, etc is sent to be scrapped if not to the landfill. And I wonder if they use caustic soda.
Now, in full disclosure years ago I built high speed bottle washers for a living. We had machines round the world. When bottles became disposable the washers went away. Now there are just ringers.
We built the in bottle pasteurizers, too.

 

[dadsbee]

I was the plant Engineer for Consumers Glass in Milton '82 to '85 making green glass. We did all of Mooseheads bottles, etc, while the Toronto / Brampton plants did brown glass for the majority of the beer industry. Many of these glass plants are gone, so can't see why they'd stop reusing the bottles. Cheaper to wash them it seems that blow new ones, at least up here.

 

[Photon440]

Sleeman's (third largest brewer in Canada) bottles get returned and refilled an average of twenty times before being replaced.

But to the topic, here in B.C. Hot Tank cleaning is still listed as a service by Lordco. They're an auto parts supply chain with over 100 locations in the Province.

 

[mopar jack]

In California hot tanks are hard to find but my machinist has one and it does not remove rust. I had 2 blocks cleaned last year and noticed there is still some loose rust in the jackets when I asked about it he said the tank doesn't remove the rust only the pressure washing does.

 

[CHARGERSTEVEN]

Just store the block with anti freeze for a few months.You ever see how much rusty water comes out of your inboard motor when you start it after sitting for 6 months full of anti freeze.

 

[Slap Stick]

I was the plant Engineer for Consumers Glass in Milton '82 to '85 making green glass. We did all of Mooseheads bottles, etc, while the Toronto / Brampton plants did brown glass for the majority of the beer industry. Many of these glass plants are gone, so can't see why they'd stop reusing the bottles. Cheaper to wash them it seems that blow new ones, at least up here.

It would seem. Its cheaper to make new steel from scrap these days.
Other plants are making the new bottles.

 

[Ceedawg]

The water in hot tanks would evaporate away. so you would have to ad water to them occasionally. it is the muck that is cooked off the parts that is the issue. I worked in a shop that had one and still does. And yes all knowing Stanton it did remove rust. I used it and cleaned many a engine block. The ovens came out and baked the engine parts and after they were baked for a while you would remove the parts and wash them in a wash out tank to get rid of the baked junk. just like when you clean your oven at home, there will be some junk left behind to clean up. you cant put aluminum in either type of cleaner. there is a liquid dip for that.

One word LYE

 

[Durandal25]

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WTF....lol....way to send it, sir.

 

[Cranky]

Ahahahaha......You should do stand up KD!

He IS standing up

 

[68Moparmaniac]

My guy uses a ultrasonic tank with some Tide soap. Freakin thing looked brand spankin new. Oil passages were spotless and the water jackets looked like the day it was cast. Had a number blocks baked before and wasn't all that happy with the results. If you can find a place that still uses a hot tank go with them...IMO

 

[Moparfiend]

My guy uses a ultrasonic tank with some Tide soap. Freakin thing looked brand spankin new. Oil passages were spotless and the water jackets looked like the day it was cast. Had a number blocks baked before and wasn't all that happy with the results. If you can find a place that still uses a hot tank go with them...IMO

That must be one incredibly large and powerful ultrasonic cleaner!

 

[Cranky]

Have power washed the ones that weren't full of crud with very good results. At one time I had 300 feet of water hose and laid it out in the sun and hooked it up to the pressure washer. This works pretty well in the S.Texas summer sun and while waiting a bit for the hose to heat up, the block was pushed out into the sun while still on the engine stand and went after it with plenty of soap and brushes then blasted it with the pressure washer. They came out pretty darn decent. Did one once that was full of crud and it made a mess out of me and my driveway so started sending out the nasty ones from then on lol. And no matter how you wash it, go through everything after getting the block back (heads too) with good bottle brushes (gun brushes for the small passages) and rinse with solvent. Transmission fluid is high detergent and works well to do a final cleaning and helps keep bare metal from rusting.

 

[69a100]

I was the plant Engineer for Consumers Glass in Milton '82 to '85 making green glass. We did all of Mooseheads bottles, etc, while the Toronto / Brampton plants did brown glass for the majority of the beer industry. Many of these glass plants are gone, so can't see why they'd stop reusing the bottles. Cheaper to wash them it seems that blow new ones, at least up here.

I bet it's cheaper and less time consuming to just use aluminum cans and buy recycled aluminum instead!

 

[dadsbee]

Not sure on that either Jon... we get charged $5 more for 24 cans than 24 bottles and both have 10cent return deposit on them, so would suggest the canning process costs about 13% more ($39/case of beer.. $44.95 for cans)... and drinking out of a can sucks!

 

[Cranky]

Not sure on that either Jon... we get charged $5 more for 24 cans than 24 bottles and both have 10cent return deposit on them, so would suggest the canning process costs about 13% more ($39/case of beer.. $44.95 for cans)... and drinking out of a can sucks!

Yeah but man, nothing beats smashing a freshly emptied beer can on yer forehead!!

 

[Chargerjase]

Like this???

 

[493 Mike]

Not sure on that either Jon... we get charged $5 more for 24 cans than 24 bottles and both have 10cent return deposit on them, so would suggest the canning process costs about 13% more ($39/case of beer.. $44.95 for cans)... and drinking out of a can sucks!

It's not too difficult to pour that can into a glass. I have to do it at one of the bars on my circuit. (back in the old days before C-19).
Mike

 

[Photon440]

Generally, cans cost a little less than bottles around here. Lighter weight and more compact packaging help lower shipping costs with cans too. Deposit is the same. Some people just like beer out of a bottle, while some view the lighter weight and less breakable can to have the advantage. So, with two customer bases, a lot of brands just make both versions available. Usually the person buying canned beer gets a little more, the standard bottles are 341 ml. while cans hold 355 ml.

I like beer in a bottle, but often a brand I want has only cans, so that's what I get. I sip it while scrubbing my engine parts because I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner of my own, but brake cleaner helps out.

 

[BB BELLA]

I was the plant Engineer for Consumers Glass in Milton '82 to '85 making green glass. We did all of Mooseheads bottles, etc, while the Toronto / Brampton plants did brown glass for the majority of the beer industry. Many of these glass plants are gone, so can't see why they'd stop reusing the bottles. Cheaper to wash them it seems that blow new ones, at least up here.

Wayne, I worked at the kipling ave. plant for a short time the pay was fantastic as I recall about $12/hr. My girlfriends father drove truck for canada cartage and got me an interview with the head warehouseman and the plant personel manager was an aquaintance of my father. I ended up working on the end of the oven line stacking cases on skids,what a hot demanding job I probably lost 10 lbs. the first week,salt pills in a dispenser on the wall! somehow the the plant manager figured out I was only 15yrs. old and they came to the line and escorted me out, after 3 weeks! 1976