Edelbrock A12 intake ID help needed

[MecGen]

Hello people

I am cleaning out my storage and found my 6 pack, and again, going through my notes, I can't get a yes or no answer if mine is an actual 1969.5 A12 part ...
Bit of a back story, this 6 pack setup was removed from a car in 1984, wrapped in plastic, then stored in a closet for 40 years. This is important to me (my story) because it was a friend that bought it in 84, before "numbers" meant anything and muscle cars were just cars, and I can vouch he did nothing but dust it off. Nobody after 84 touched anything on it. About 10 years ago, when I finally convinced him to sell it to me - I had a 1969 SuperB - at that time I sent a member some pictures, it was internet confirmed it had all correct hardware and the numbers on the carbs are correct for A12 but I couldn't get a clear answer if the intake was factory installed, over the counter dealer, or from a parts outlet ... its all about the "6". So this is what I got, if someone could be so kind and shead light on this.

THE PICTURES DON'T SHOW THE RIGHT ANGLE BUT, the 6 is actually lower and tilted to 1-2 o'clock. In person it is very obvious. I did not want to remove a carb just to take a picture. The posts I have found on various groups talk/show the 6 is crooked but has a tail on the top, mine is not like this, but the 6 is definitely...gimped. Edit: after closer look, the 6 is normal not crooked, just more pronounced then the other numbers.

So that's the scoop, is it a A12 intake ? And maybe even more importantly, does it matter if it is or is not ? Consensus among my friends is that even if it is, there are so few A12's and even fewer A12's that need a 6 pack that it makes no difference, it will never find its original home on a A12. Long story, but if it is a oem part, I would love for it to go back on one.

I am on the way to dig this out of storage and bring it to a Mopar expert in my area, take some pictures. These pics are 10 years old, its when I got it.

I would love to hear you ideas on this.
Thanks Frank

 

[6PKRTSE]

Imho. Who cares. Put it on something and run it already after 40 years....

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

Try the guys in the A12 forum but looks all legit to me

 

[MecGen]

Imho. Who cares. Put it on something and run it already after 40 years....

Agreed. It was always supposed to go on a car, but life got in the way. Sure would like it to go back on the right car. Cheers

 

[MecGen]

Try the guys in the A12 forum but looks all legit

What forum is that ? There is one i found in Google, but you need to be a member to have access. Thanks

 

[33 IMP]

Have you got the date codes and list #s of the carbs? That would be the first thing I would check when you get your hands on em again.
If the carbs are legit, the chances of the manifold being legit become very very good!.(if I remember right, there are different list #s for the center carb, depending on if auto or four speed.
If you need I can get the numbers off my second day A12 stuff.

 

[33 IMP]

What forum is that ? There is one i found in Google, but you need to be a member to have access. Thanks

Since you're in the A12 forum here, possibly referring to "The Lift off hood Playground". . Or the 69 sixpack/six bbl registry.

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

What forum is that ? There is one i found in Google, but you need to be a member to have access. Thanks

Here

 

[8formulas]

See link below. Left pic is original. Yours appears to be original.

https://a12mopar.com/yabb/Attachments/intake_2.jpg

 

[33 IMP]

The CH6B on the heat riser would be a dead giveaway that it is NOT an original.

 

[8formulas]

The CH6B on the heat riser would be a dead giveaway that it is NOT an original.

Agreed

 

[MecGen]

The CH6B on the heat riser would be a dead giveaway that it is NOT an original.

Have you got the date codes and list #s of the carbs? That would be the first thing I would check when you get your hands on em again.
If the carbs are legit, the chances of the manifold being legit become very very good!.(if I remember right, there are different list #s for the center carb, depending on if auto or four speed.
If you need I can get the numbers off my second day A12 stuff.

Agreed

My codes as follows

1259
LIST-4393-1
1219
LIST-4392
1289
LIST-4394-1

I had checked these numbers with a list that a member sent me and these carbs are or can be from a A12. 1969 automatic.

I definitely do not have the CH6B on the heat riser, and absolutely no sign of using a grinder. I can't imagine someone in the early 80's doing this in that time. It's the number 6 that is not a decisive yes or no.

Is the idle up solenoid only on automatic cars or everything?
I read a post somewhere that a 3rd type of intake was sold over the counter at the dealers in that time ... any thoughts ?

Thanks guys

 

[6PKRTSE]

I am not and never will be a numbers matching date coded kind of guy. After 40 years and you finally decide you want to part with it. I would put it to good use. Let me know if you want to sell it.

 

[33 IMP]

Those are the right carbs, 99%+ that is a A12 intake.
Edelbrock sold 6pak manifolds, and mopar also sold them over the counter. Not counting the iron ones, I believe there are four versions of the 440 Sixpack manifold. A couple with the CH6B, one later without, cause people complained the label gave it away as not original.
I could be wrong about this. (I have one of the later manifolds too, with the ch6b, and the core shift and machining is awful)

 

[Bird 426]

Curious, what designates A 12? I was under the impression that '69 's were A 12. I know that 6-pack was offered in '70, but I did not consider them A 12. The 6-pack was offered on E bodies and B. '69's had an aluminum Edelbrock intake and '70's has cast iron.

 

[RemCharger]

The A12 was a complete car package. After that it was watered down to an engine option.

 

[33 IMP]

A12 was the option package designation in 69 1/2 for Super Bee and Road Runner.
In 70, six pack option was something else .
An A13 in 69 was a 440 A-body.
An A12 in 70, was the Chrysler 300 Hurst.

 

[Bird 426]

Okay guys, Thank you.

 

[MecGen]

Yes

I am not and never will be a numbers matching date coded kind of guy. After 40 years and you finally decide you want to part with it. I would put it to good use. Let me know if you want to sell it.

Yes me too in general. I have a 65 GTO that's nothing stock or matching on purpose. It's just over the last 10 or 20 years the hobby has shifted to an antique numbers game and serious incredible builders putting soooo much effort into concourse cars. I don't have the patience for that anymore but I got to appreciate their dedication to detail. I figured it would be nice sitting under a A12 hood
Wow you have a serious arsenal of cars in your garage!

Those are the right carbs, 99%+ that is a A12 intake.
Edelbrock sold 6pak manifolds, and mopar also sold them over the counter. Not counting the iron ones, I believe there are four versions of the 440 Sixpack manifold. A couple with the CH6B, one later without, cause people complained the label gave it away as not original.
I could be wrong about this. (I have one of the later manifolds too, with the ch6b, and the core shift and machining is awful)

Thanks for the info, I had been told (interweb) that there was 3 types of aluminum intakes. I understand fully in those years, record keeping was not important nor a priority. Now if can just find where I put those wingnuts lol
I bought this 6 pack with the full intention to put it on my 69 SuperB. My bud that sold it to me, bought it for his SuperB. But life got in the way for both of us.

I appreciate everybody's time, trying to help me shed some light on this, Cheers