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A liquid conductor around spring tubes that hold internally the AC freeyon that works off like a usual AC compressor. Will this work?

i know more metal weight probably in the water jackets but could this still work?
 
I’m pretty sure you need a way to transfer the heat outside the engine but I don’t know how yet without the usual thought of circulation.
 
A water pump that sucks the water out of the spring tunnels and places new water in! I forgot it! I think I got it. But you have to have a continuous AC freeyon that transfer the heat to the water so the water can be sucked out and then another water pump places new water in! I got it!
 
Mopar and Ford already do this.. Not sure about ford to be honest. But they use the AC to cool the supercharger. So sort of on the same idea.

 
A liquid conductor around spring tubes that hold internally the AC freeyon that works off like a usual AC compressor. Will this work?

i know more metal weight probably in the water jackets but could this still work?
If you're thinking of cooling the entire engine with A/C, just remember that the same amount of heat will still need extracting. So even after you deal with your internal coolant-to-external coil tubes, the resulting heat will need a similar sized radiator that is currently used for coolant.
 
Ford was the first I heard of. In the Lightning, 20 years ago or so.

Edit:
Cool runnings: Ford's SuperCooler uses cold air to heat up engine performance
BY RICHARD TRUETT | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
MAR 2, 2003





Not long before the Detroit auto show in January, Chris Theodore, Ford Motor Co.'s chief of North American product development, looked at the SVT F-150 Lightning concept and wondered whether the 500-hp muscle truck's performance could be kicked up a notch.

"Is there anything we can do to really put it over the top?" Theodore asked John Coletti, director of Ford's Special Vehicle Team.

In less time than it takes to smoke a pair of rear tires on a Mustang Cobra, Coletti said, "Yes."

Coletti knew he could boost the truck's performance without making major expenditures or having to re-engineer the Lightning's supercharged 5.4-liter V-8.

He dusted a forgotten item from the SVT parts shelf that had been used on the 1993 Mustang Mach III concept car.

The SuperCooler, as Ford calls it, uses the vehicle's air conditioning compressor and an intercooler to lower the temperature of the air going into the engine.

When air is colder and more dense, a greater volume can

be packed into the combustion chambers. That enables the engine to produce more power.

While the technology is part of a high-profile concept truck, the system can be applied to any engine that uses a turbocharger or supercharger to increase horsepower.

Although different in approach, the SuperCooler aims to do the same thing as a nitrous oxide system, a popular aftermarket addition for enthusiasts.

A tank of nitrous oxide gas is mounted in the vehicle, with a line running to the engine intake manifold.

The gas provides more oxygen to the engine, which allows more fuel to be used in combustion and generates more power.

The gas also lowers the temperature of the incoming air-fuel mixture, making it denser and allowing more to enter the cylinder.

Nitrous systems, which sell for about $800, are enjoying a strong wave of popularity now because of the rapid growth of the sport compact tuner market.

The problem with nitrous oxide is that the tank has to be refilled at around $3.50 a pound. Conversely, the SuperCooler is a sealed system that does not need recharging.

The SVT Lightning concept truck - an early look at the next-generation production version based on the 2004 F-150 - delivers between 50 and 60 more horsepower with the SuperCooler, Coletti says.

The SuperCooler system doesn't need any expensive or exotic hardware, just an additional tank and some extra plumbing. But it works only on turbocharged or supercharged engines equipped with a liquid-to-air intercooler. Much of the hardware is already in place on the current F-150 Lightning and Mustang Cobra. Both are equipped with a supercharger and water-to-air intercooler.

The vehicle's air conditioning compressor chills a tank of glycol - antifreeze - to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.

When the driver opens the throttle, the coolant in the intercooler, which is about 140 degrees, is bypassed by the chilled glycol.

The system lowers the temperature of the intake air from 120 degrees to between 50 and 70 degrees.

Once the glycol passes through the intercooler, it circulates back into the tank, where it is chilled again.

The system never needs refilling, never wears out and requires no additional maintenance. It also has no effect on emissions.

The four drawbacks are slight:

1. The additional horsepower is not available all the time. It lasts only as long as the supply of chilled glycol.

2. The system adds around 25 pounds of weight.

3. Fuel economy is slightly lower because the air conditioning compressor is running more often.

4. The SuperCooler adds around $750 in cost.

"With a 2.5 or 3.0-gallon tank (of glycol) and an engine our size, 5.4-liters, you are talking about 45 seconds where you have an effective superchilling effect," Coletti says.

He says that duration is more than enough since the truck hits 60 mph in around 6 seconds. It would reach 150 mph in about 25 seconds.

Coletti engineered the system so that it doesn't take long for the glycol to get cold again.

"It's under two minutes," Coletti says. "If you think about it, the way we designed it, you can go down the drag strip and by the time you get back to the starting line, you are ready to go again."

Coletti says the standard-issue Ford air conditioning compressor needs no modification.

He says the system is designed so that it gives cooling priority to the truck's cab over the tank of glycol.

The SuperCooler, Coletti says, has applications beyond the high-performance SVT Lightning.

It can be used to boost the performance of small displacement engines, which may have big implications if fuel economy standards are raised.

"It is possible to use the technology in the smaller end of the market," Coletti says.

"Let's say you wanted to replace a 3.0-liter engine with a 1.5-liter engine, you would need to have a boosted engine with a water-to-air-intercooler."

The system also works on diesel engines.

Coletti, who has a patent application pending, says he knows of no other SuperCooler systems.

He says SVT engineers have tested the SuperCooler and verified that it works well under real-world driving conditions.

SVT engineers piled on plenty

of miles on a test mule Lightning last year with no problems.

There are no firm production plans for the SuperCooler. But Coletti indicates it is a ready-to-go system that Ford can roll out quickly to fend off competition, such as the upcoming V-10-powered Dodge Ram SRT-10 sport truck.

"Chris Theodore and I talk about it," Coletti says. "The questions are: When is the right time? What is the appropriate application?

"There are no major obstacles to keep it from production. There is a cost impact. There is a packaging impact.

"But if you need the extra power, it can be done without going in there and tearing up the engine."
 
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If you're thinking of cooling the entire engine with A/C, just remember that the same amount of heat will still need extracting. So even after you deal with your internal coolant-to-external coil tubes, the resulting heat will need a similar sized radiator that is currently used for coolant.

Superficially, it appears that the system is a glorified intercooler for the super charger, that, cools the air flow with refrigerant rather than just air. The canned explanation is a little vague without any volume temperature information other than Florida vs Alaska...... Other than that, the removed intercooler temperature is added to the A/C temperature load, which is powered by the engine, which uses some of the recovered heat to make more HP.......catch 22 ???......but interesting......
BOB RENTON
 
Ford was the first I heard of. In the Lightning, 20 years ago or so.

Edit:
Cool runnings: Ford's SuperCooler uses cold air to heat up engine performance
BY RICHARD TRUETT | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
MAR 2, 2003





Not long before the Detroit auto show in January, Chris Theodore, Ford Motor Co.'s chief of North American product development, looked at the SVT F-150 Lightning concept and wondered whether the 500-hp muscle truck's performance could be kicked up a notch.

"Is there anything we can do to really put it over the top?" Theodore asked John Coletti, director of Ford's Special Vehicle Team.

In less time than it takes to smoke a pair of rear tires on a Mustang Cobra, Coletti said, "Yes."

Coletti knew he could boost the truck's performance without making major expenditures or having to re-engineer the Lightning's supercharged 5.4-liter V-8.

He dusted a forgotten item from the SVT parts shelf that had been used on the 1993 Mustang Mach III concept car.

The SuperCooler, as Ford calls it, uses the vehicle's air conditioning compressor and an intercooler to lower the temperature of the air going into the engine.

When air is colder and more dense, a greater volume can

be packed into the combustion chambers. That enables the engine to produce more power.

While the technology is part of a high-profile concept truck, the system can be applied to any engine that uses a turbocharger or supercharger to increase horsepower.

Although different in approach, the SuperCooler aims to do the same thing as a nitrous oxide system, a popular aftermarket addition for enthusiasts.

A tank of nitrous oxide gas is mounted in the vehicle, with a line running to the engine intake manifold.

The gas provides more oxygen to the engine, which allows more fuel to be used in combustion and generates more power.

The gas also lowers the temperature of the incoming air-fuel mixture, making it denser and allowing more to enter the cylinder.

Nitrous systems, which sell for about $800, are enjoying a strong wave of popularity now because of the rapid growth of the sport compact tuner market.

The problem with nitrous oxide is that the tank has to be refilled at around $3.50 a pound. Conversely, the SuperCooler is a sealed system that does not need recharging.

The SVT Lightning concept truck - an early look at the next-generation production version based on the 2004 F-150 - delivers between 50 and 60 more horsepower with the SuperCooler, Coletti says.

The SuperCooler system doesn't need any expensive or exotic hardware, just an additional tank and some extra plumbing. But it works only on turbocharged or supercharged engines equipped with a liquid-to-air intercooler. Much of the hardware is already in place on the current F-150 Lightning and Mustang Cobra. Both are equipped with a supercharger and water-to-air intercooler.

The vehicle's air conditioning compressor chills a tank of glycol - antifreeze - to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.

When the driver opens the throttle, the coolant in the intercooler, which is about 140 degrees, is bypassed by the chilled glycol.

The system lowers the temperature of the intake air from 120 degrees to between 50 and 70 degrees.

Once the glycol passes through the intercooler, it circulates back into the tank, where it is chilled again.

The system never needs refilling, never wears out and requires no additional maintenance. It also has no effect on emissions.

The four drawbacks are slight:

1. The additional horsepower is not available all the time. It lasts only as long as the supply of chilled glycol.

2. The system adds around 25 pounds of weight.

3. Fuel economy is slightly lower because the air conditioning compressor is running more often.

4. The SuperCooler adds around $750 in cost.

"With a 2.5 or 3.0-gallon tank (of glycol) and an engine our size, 5.4-liters, you are talking about 45 seconds where you have an effective superchilling effect," Coletti says.

He says that duration is more than enough since the truck hits 60 mph in around 6 seconds. It would reach 150 mph in about 25 seconds.

Coletti engineered the system so that it doesn't take long for the glycol to get cold again.

"It's under two minutes," Coletti says. "If you think about it, the way we designed it, you can go down the drag strip and by the time you get back to the starting line, you are ready to go again."

Coletti says the standard-issue Ford air conditioning compressor needs no modification.

He says the system is designed so that it gives cooling priority to the truck's cab over the tank of glycol.

The SuperCooler, Coletti says, has applications beyond the high-performance SVT Lightning.

It can be used to boost the performance of small displacement engines, which may have big implications if fuel economy standards are raised.

"It is possible to use the technology in the smaller end of the market," Coletti says.

"Let's say you wanted to replace a 3.0-liter engine with a 1.5-liter engine, you would need to have a boosted engine with a water-to-air-intercooler."

The system also works on diesel engines.

Coletti, who has a patent application pending, says he knows of no other SuperCooler systems.

He says SVT engineers have tested the SuperCooler and verified that it works well under real-world driving conditions.

SVT engineers piled on plenty

of miles on a test mule Lightning last year with no problems.

There are no firm production plans for the SuperCooler. But Coletti indicates it is a ready-to-go system that Ford can roll out quickly to fend off competition, such as the upcoming V-10-powered Dodge Ram SRT-10 sport truck.

"Chris Theodore and I talk about it," Coletti says. "The questions are: When is the right time? What is the appropriate application?

"There are no major obstacles to keep it from production. There is a cost impact. There is a packaging impact.

"But if you need the extra power, it can be done without going in there and tearing up the engine."


Thanks. not exactly what I’m taking about but that ideal is way more intrinsic I believe.

I’ll have to read it a few more times to have a conversation about it because it’s one of those things that takes re reads to understand it fully with my mind.
Ford was the first I heard of. In the Lightning, 20 years ago or so.

Edit:
Cool runnings: Ford's SuperCooler uses cold air to heat up engine performance
BY RICHARD TRUETT | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
MAR 2, 2003





Not long before the Detroit auto show in January, Chris Theodore, Ford Motor Co.'s chief of North American product development, looked at the SVT F-150 Lightning concept and wondered whether the 500-hp muscle truck's performance could be kicked up a notch.

"Is there anything we can do to really put it over the top?" Theodore asked John Coletti, director of Ford's Special Vehicle Team.

In less time than it takes to smoke a pair of rear tires on a Mustang Cobra, Coletti said, "Yes."

Coletti knew he could boost the truck's performance without making major expenditures or having to re-engineer the Lightning's supercharged 5.4-liter V-8.

He dusted a forgotten item from the SVT parts shelf that had been used on the 1993 Mustang Mach III concept car.

The SuperCooler, as Ford calls it, uses the vehicle's air conditioning compressor and an intercooler to lower the temperature of the air going into the engine.

When air is colder and more dense, a greater volume can

be packed into the combustion chambers. That enables the engine to produce more power.

While the technology is part of a high-profile concept truck, the system can be applied to any engine that uses a turbocharger or supercharger to increase horsepower.

Although different in approach, the SuperCooler aims to do the same thing as a nitrous oxide system, a popular aftermarket addition for enthusiasts.

A tank of nitrous oxide gas is mounted in the vehicle, with a line running to the engine intake manifold.

The gas provides more oxygen to the engine, which allows more fuel to be used in combustion and generates more power.

The gas also lowers the temperature of the incoming air-fuel mixture, making it denser and allowing more to enter the cylinder.

Nitrous systems, which sell for about $800, are enjoying a strong wave of popularity now because of the rapid growth of the sport compact tuner market.

The problem with nitrous oxide is that the tank has to be refilled at around $3.50 a pound. Conversely, the SuperCooler is a sealed system that does not need recharging.

The SVT Lightning concept truck - an early look at the next-generation production version based on the 2004 F-150 - delivers between 50 and 60 more horsepower with the SuperCooler, Coletti says.

The SuperCooler system doesn't need any expensive or exotic hardware, just an additional tank and some extra plumbing. But it works only on turbocharged or supercharged engines equipped with a liquid-to-air intercooler. Much of the hardware is already in place on the current F-150 Lightning and Mustang Cobra. Both are equipped with a supercharger and water-to-air intercooler.

The vehicle's air conditioning compressor chills a tank of glycol - antifreeze - to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.

When the driver opens the throttle, the coolant in the intercooler, which is about 140 degrees, is bypassed by the chilled glycol.

The system lowers the temperature of the intake air from 120 degrees to between 50 and 70 degrees.

Once the glycol passes through the intercooler, it circulates back into the tank, where it is chilled again.

The system never needs refilling, never wears out and requires no additional maintenance. It also has no effect on emissions.

The four drawbacks are slight:

1. The additional horsepower is not available all the time. It lasts only as long as the supply of chilled glycol.

2. The system adds around 25 pounds of weight.

3. Fuel economy is slightly lower because the air conditioning compressor is running more often.

4. The SuperCooler adds around $750 in cost.

"With a 2.5 or 3.0-gallon tank (of glycol) and an engine our size, 5.4-liters, you are talking about 45 seconds where you have an effective superchilling effect," Coletti says.

He says that duration is more than enough since the truck hits 60 mph in around 6 seconds. It would reach 150 mph in about 25 seconds.

Coletti engineered the system so that it doesn't take long for the glycol to get cold again.

"It's under two minutes," Coletti says. "If you think about it, the way we designed it, you can go down the drag strip and by the time you get back to the starting line, you are ready to go again."

Coletti says the standard-issue Ford air conditioning compressor needs no modification.

He says the system is designed so that it gives cooling priority to the truck's cab over the tank of glycol.

The SuperCooler, Coletti says, has applications beyond the high-performance SVT Lightning.

It can be used to boost the performance of small displacement engines, which may have big implications if fuel economy standards are raised.

"It is possible to use the technology in the smaller end of the market," Coletti says.

"Let's say you wanted to replace a 3.0-liter engine with a 1.5-liter engine, you would need to have a boosted engine with a water-to-air-intercooler."

The system also works on diesel engines.

Coletti, who has a patent application pending, says he knows of no other SuperCooler systems.

He says SVT engineers have tested the SuperCooler and verified that it works well under real-world driving conditions.

SVT engineers piled on plenty

of miles on a test mule Lightning last year with no problems.

There are no firm production plans for the SuperCooler. But Coletti indicates it is a ready-to-go system that Ford can roll out quickly to fend off competition, such as the upcoming V-10-powered Dodge Ram SRT-10 sport truck.

"Chris Theodore and I talk about it," Coletti says. "The questions are: When is the right time? What is the appropriate application?

"There are no major obstacles to keep it from production. There is a cost impact. There is a packaging impact.

"But if you need the extra power, it can be done without going in there and tearing up the engine."
 
I’ll respond later from my point of view. I’m at a bar drinking right now with my dad singing karaoke. See y’all later.
 
Ford was the first I heard of. In the Lightning, 20 years ago or so.

Edit:
Cool runnings: Ford's SuperCooler uses cold air to heat up engine performance
BY RICHARD TRUETT | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
MAR 2, 2003





Not long before the Detroit auto show in January, Chris Theodore, Ford Motor Co.'s chief of North American product development, looked at the SVT F-150 Lightning concept and wondered whether the 500-hp muscle truck's performance could be kicked up a notch.

"Is there anything we can do to really put it over the top?" Theodore asked John Coletti, director of Ford's Special Vehicle Team.

In less time than it takes to smoke a pair of rear tires on a Mustang Cobra, Coletti said, "Yes."

Coletti knew he could boost the truck's performance without making major expenditures or having to re-engineer the Lightning's supercharged 5.4-liter V-8.

He dusted a forgotten item from the SVT parts shelf that had been used on the 1993 Mustang Mach III concept car.

The SuperCooler, as Ford calls it, uses the vehicle's air conditioning compressor and an intercooler to lower the temperature of the air going into the engine.

When air is colder and more dense, a greater volume can

be packed into the combustion chambers. That enables the engine to produce more power.

While the technology is part of a high-profile concept truck, the system can be applied to any engine that uses a turbocharger or supercharger to increase horsepower.

Although different in approach, the SuperCooler aims to do the same thing as a nitrous oxide system, a popular aftermarket addition for enthusiasts.

A tank of nitrous oxide gas is mounted in the vehicle, with a line running to the engine intake manifold.

The gas provides more oxygen to the engine, which allows more fuel to be used in combustion and generates more power.

The gas also lowers the temperature of the incoming air-fuel mixture, making it denser and allowing more to enter the cylinder.

Nitrous systems, which sell for about $800, are enjoying a strong wave of popularity now because of the rapid growth of the sport compact tuner market.

The problem with nitrous oxide is that the tank has to be refilled at around $3.50 a pound. Conversely, the SuperCooler is a sealed system that does not need recharging.

The SVT Lightning concept truck - an early look at the next-generation production version based on the 2004 F-150 - delivers between 50 and 60 more horsepower with the SuperCooler, Coletti says.

The SuperCooler system doesn't need any expensive or exotic hardware, just an additional tank and some extra plumbing. But it works only on turbocharged or supercharged engines equipped with a liquid-to-air intercooler. Much of the hardware is already in place on the current F-150 Lightning and Mustang Cobra. Both are equipped with a supercharger and water-to-air intercooler.

The vehicle's air conditioning compressor chills a tank of glycol - antifreeze - to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.

When the driver opens the throttle, the coolant in the intercooler, which is about 140 degrees, is bypassed by the chilled glycol.

The system lowers the temperature of the intake air from 120 degrees to between 50 and 70 degrees.

Once the glycol passes through the intercooler, it circulates back into the tank, where it is chilled again.

The system never needs refilling, never wears out and requires no additional maintenance. It also has no effect on emissions.

The four drawbacks are slight:

1. The additional horsepower is not available all the time. It lasts only as long as the supply of chilled glycol.

2. The system adds around 25 pounds of weight.

3. Fuel economy is slightly lower because the air conditioning compressor is running more often.

4. The SuperCooler adds around $750 in cost.

"With a 2.5 or 3.0-gallon tank (of glycol) and an engine our size, 5.4-liters, you are talking about 45 seconds where you have an effective superchilling effect," Coletti says.

He says that duration is more than enough since the truck hits 60 mph in around 6 seconds. It would reach 150 mph in about 25 seconds.

Coletti engineered the system so that it doesn't take long for the glycol to get cold again.

"It's under two minutes," Coletti says. "If you think about it, the way we designed it, you can go down the drag strip and by the time you get back to the starting line, you are ready to go again."

Coletti says the standard-issue Ford air conditioning compressor needs no modification.

He says the system is designed so that it gives cooling priority to the truck's cab over the tank of glycol.

The SuperCooler, Coletti says, has applications beyond the high-performance SVT Lightning.

It can be used to boost the performance of small displacement engines, which may have big implications if fuel economy standards are raised.

"It is possible to use the technology in the smaller end of the market," Coletti says.

"Let's say you wanted to replace a 3.0-liter engine with a 1.5-liter engine, you would need to have a boosted engine with a water-to-air-intercooler."

The system also works on diesel engines.

Coletti, who has a patent application pending, says he knows of no other SuperCooler systems.

He says SVT engineers have tested the SuperCooler and verified that it works well under real-world driving conditions.

SVT engineers piled on plenty

of miles on a test mule Lightning last year with no problems.

There are no firm production plans for the SuperCooler. But Coletti indicates it is a ready-to-go system that Ford can roll out quickly to fend off competition, such as the upcoming V-10-powered Dodge Ram SRT-10 sport truck.

"Chris Theodore and I talk about it," Coletti says. "The questions are: When is the right time? What is the appropriate application?

"There are no major obstacles to keep it from production. There is a cost impact. There is a packaging impact.

"But if you need the extra power, it can be done without going in there and tearing up the engine."
Ford was the first I heard of. In the Lightning, 20 years ago or so.

Edit:
Cool runnings: Ford's SuperCooler uses cold air to heat up engine performance
BY RICHARD TRUETT | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
MAR 2, 2003





Not long before the Detroit auto show in January, Chris Theodore, Ford Motor Co.'s chief of North American product development, looked at the SVT F-150 Lightning concept and wondered whether the 500-hp muscle truck's performance could be kicked up a notch.

"Is there anything we can do to really put it over the top?" Theodore asked John Coletti, director of Ford's Special Vehicle Team.

In less time than it takes to smoke a pair of rear tires on a Mustang Cobra, Coletti said, "Yes."

Coletti knew he could boost the truck's performance without making major expenditures or having to re-engineer the Lightning's supercharged 5.4-liter V-8.

He dusted a forgotten item from the SVT parts shelf that had been used on the 1993 Mustang Mach III concept car.

The SuperCooler, as Ford calls it, uses the vehicle's air conditioning compressor and an intercooler to lower the temperature of the air going into the engine.

When air is colder and more dense, a greater volume can

be packed into the combustion chambers. That enables the engine to produce more power.

While the technology is part of a high-profile concept truck, the system can be applied to any engine that uses a turbocharger or supercharger to increase horsepower.

Although different in approach, the SuperCooler aims to do the same thing as a nitrous oxide system, a popular aftermarket addition for enthusiasts.

A tank of nitrous oxide gas is mounted in the vehicle, with a line running to the engine intake manifold.

The gas provides more oxygen to the engine, which allows more fuel to be used in combustion and generates more power.

The gas also lowers the temperature of the incoming air-fuel mixture, making it denser and allowing more to enter the cylinder.

Nitrous systems, which sell for about $800, are enjoying a strong wave of popularity now because of the rapid growth of the sport compact tuner market.

The problem with nitrous oxide is that the tank has to be refilled at around $3.50 a pound. Conversely, the SuperCooler is a sealed system that does not need recharging.

The SVT Lightning concept truck - an early look at the next-generation production version based on the 2004 F-150 - delivers between 50 and 60 more horsepower with the SuperCooler, Coletti says.

The SuperCooler system doesn't need any expensive or exotic hardware, just an additional tank and some extra plumbing. But it works only on turbocharged or supercharged engines equipped with a liquid-to-air intercooler. Much of the hardware is already in place on the current F-150 Lightning and Mustang Cobra. Both are equipped with a supercharger and water-to-air intercooler.

The vehicle's air conditioning compressor chills a tank of glycol - antifreeze - to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.

When the driver opens the throttle, the coolant in the intercooler, which is about 140 degrees, is bypassed by the chilled glycol.

The system lowers the temperature of the intake air from 120 degrees to between 50 and 70 degrees.

Once the glycol passes through the intercooler, it circulates back into the tank, where it is chilled again.

The system never needs refilling, never wears out and requires no additional maintenance. It also has no effect on emissions.

The four drawbacks are slight:

1. The additional horsepower is not available all the time. It lasts only as long as the supply of chilled glycol.

2. The system adds around 25 pounds of weight.

3. Fuel economy is slightly lower because the air conditioning compressor is running more often.

4. The SuperCooler adds around $750 in cost.

"With a 2.5 or 3.0-gallon tank (of glycol) and an engine our size, 5.4-liters, you are talking about 45 seconds where you have an effective superchilling effect," Coletti says.

He says that duration is more than enough since the truck hits 60 mph in around 6 seconds. It would reach 150 mph in about 25 seconds.

Coletti engineered the system so that it doesn't take long for the glycol to get cold again.

"It's under two minutes," Coletti says. "If you think about it, the way we designed it, you can go down the drag strip and by the time you get back to the starting line, you are ready to go again."

Coletti says the standard-issue Ford air conditioning compressor needs no modification.

He says the system is designed so that it gives cooling priority to the truck's cab over the tank of glycol.

The SuperCooler, Coletti says, has applications beyond the high-performance SVT Lightning.

It can be used to boost the performance of small displacement engines, which may have big implications if fuel economy standards are raised.

"It is possible to use the technology in the smaller end of the market," Coletti says.

"Let's say you wanted to replace a 3.0-liter engine with a 1.5-liter engine, you would need to have a boosted engine with a water-to-air-intercooler."

The system also works on diesel engines.

Coletti, who has a patent application pending, says he knows of no other SuperCooler systems.

He says SVT engineers have tested the SuperCooler and verified that it works well under real-world driving conditions.

SVT engineers piled on plenty

of miles on a test mule Lightning last year with no problems.

There are no firm production plans for the SuperCooler. But Coletti indicates it is a ready-to-go system that Ford can roll out quickly to fend off competition, such as the upcoming V-10-powered Dodge Ram SRT-10 sport truck.

"Chris Theodore and I talk about it," Coletti says. "The questions are: When is the right time? What is the appropriate application?

"There are no major obstacles to keep it from production. There is a cost impact. There is a packaging impact.

"But if you need the extra power, it can be done without going in there and tearing up the engine."
Did Ford ever put this into production, or did it remain just a concept for them?
 
Superficially, it appears that the system is a glorified intercooler for the super charger, that, cools the air flow with refrigerant rather than just air. The canned explanation is a little vague without any volume temperature information other than Florida vs Alaska...... Other than that, the removed intercooler temperature is added to the A/C temperature load, which is powered by the engine, which uses some of the recovered heat to make more HP.......catch 22 ???......but interesting......
BOB RENTON
It isn't really a 'catch 22' situation; while it's true that the A/C load will go up, it can do that after the 9 second run down the track is over. Costing a little more fuel after the race is over is a good payoff for a win. That, at least, is how it seems to work with the Hellcat powered cars.
 
A liquid conductor around spring tubes that hold internally the AC freeyon that works off like a usual AC compressor. Will this work?

i know more metal weight probably in the water jackets but could this still work?
it would be very hard to balance the temperatures the refrigerant starts picking up heat as soon as it expands in the evap process so it would leave hotter areas near the end of the circuit! better way would be to build a rad with refrigerant cooling in it, that way the water would be a consistent temp when re-entering the engine and keeping the bore temps. a closer match!
 
it would be very hard to balance the temperatures the refrigerant starts picking up heat as soon as it expands in the evap process so it would leave hotter areas near the end of the circuit! better way would be to build a rad with refrigerant cooling in it, that way the water would be a consistent temp when re-entering the engine and keeping the bore temps. a closer match!

IMO...Unless the system is designed with a large percentage of superheat capabilities, a lot of un-absorbed heat will remain. An interesting concept of using a refrigerant as the engine's heat exchange mefia. But what provides the compression to the superheated (saturated gas temp) to raise its pressure & temp to allow for cooling and condensing back to a liquid to repeat the cycle?......the "Carnot cycle"...... plus engine sealing components would need to be designed for significantly higher pressures and temperature extremes......perhaps a commercially available heat transfer fluid, like one of the DOWTHERM products would provide an adequate heat transfer performance...... just a few additional talking points.....
BOB RENTON
 
Interesting concept, sort of a chilled water/ hot water HVAC system. But without specific cut in and cut out controls, I would be very concerned about thermal contraction/ expansion in the block.
 
I guess water wetter is about the only thing I've heard of that was suppose to improve heat transfer in a jacket cooled engine! I spent a good portion of my life building raceboat engines so I never spent a lot of time worrying about the water in the engine, more of how to get it there and keep supply good when the boat was barely in the water!
 
I guess water wetter is about the only thing I've heard of that was suppose to improve heat transfer in a jacket cooled engine! I spent a good portion of my life building raceboat engines so I never spent a lot of time worrying about the water in the engine, more of how to get it there and keep supply good when the boat was barely in the water!

Is your boat keel cooled (seperate heat exchanger) or direct cooled (cooled with the water the vessel is in)? It makes a significant difference as keel cooling acts like a radiator, as the engine temperature is more uniform.
BOB RENTON
 
So like a jockey box, but for your engine!:drinks::drinks::drinks:
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