Got a TQ problem

[mopar 3 B]

76 TQ 9097. Replaced accelerator pump and needle and seats. Was not disassemble any farther than needed for parts replaced above. Now no primaries.
Everything was ok except the accelerator pump before I took it apart.
Yes it is getting fuel and there is fuel in the bowls at proper levels. Floats been set at 29/32. New primary "O" rings have been installed. Even checked the thickness same .06 as the old ones. All passages have been checked.
All gaskets are new and matched to old ones.
Starts fine cool and runs fine till it warms up. Then just dies. Will restart but runs erratic after that.
In all my years have never had one do this.
Must be missing something but what?

 

[khryslerkid]

When it warms up and dies, do you have gas in the carb? Pull on accelerator looking into carb and get a good squirt?

 

[mopar 3 B]

When it warms up and dies, do you have gas in the carb? Pull on accelerator looking into carb and get a good squirt?

Yes and yes. Sure wish people could read. That was all in my original post.
Now back to what the heck happened to the primaries.

 

[snakeoil24]

Dud you look at throttle shafts to see if their bent?

 

[mopar 3 B]

Dud you look at throttle shafts to see if their bent?

My patience was getting thin. Yes this was a working carb except for the accelerator pump.
Accelerator pump now works. But for the life of me have no idea why the primaries no longer exist. Secondaries work fine as well as wot.
For now I put a different carb on it. It runs fine. Got some fine tuning too do. But with our never ending rain storms working out side is a hit and miss affair. Been without a work vehicle for a week now and need to get this one going. Got work to do.

 

[yella71]

take it back apart and look maybe you just missed something

 

[69L48Z27]

I’ve had a TQ get jammed up because the tree wasn’t free. Make sure the rods are going up and down. Other than that, it’s down to air bleeds I would think.

 

[BSB67]

Can someone explain what "no primaries" means?

Obviously it is something you did when you took it apart, and we were not there so it's a bit difficult to diagnose.

 

[mopar 3 B]

Can someone explain what "no primaries" means?

Obviously it is something you did when you took it apart, and we were not there so it's a bit difficult to diagnose.

Carb made of two sections. Primaries that the engine runs off of likely 90% of the time. Contains the idle and run sections of the carb. Then there is the secondaries that kickin' with your foot to the floor.
This carb presently has no idle.

 

[mopar 3 B]

I’ve had a TQ get jammed up because the tree wasn’t free. Make sure the rods are going up and down. Other than that, it’s down to air bleeds I would think.

See rods are in place and working.

 

[mopar 3 B]

Think I will attack the base section. Things don't quite working for no reason.

 

[BSB67]

Still don't have any clue as to your problem. If there were truely "no primaries", the car would not start, would not idle, and would not go down the road. But it apparently does idle, generally, and you stated that the secondaries are just fine. How can you even check the secondaries at WOT if you have "no primaries".

The problem is not "no primaries". The problem is one of the following: the idle circuit, the transition circuit, the primary main curcuit at cruise, primary enrichment at WOT, or the secondaries.

We need detailed symptoms to provide any reasonable help. Describe exaxctly what it is doing under specific conditions. Maybe you messed up more that one thing when you were in the carb?

 

[66chargerpat]

Check to see if the top gasket is the same as the old one. Sounds like the idle circuits are blocked.

 

[mopar 3 B]

Dam you people still like to jump to conclusions and can not read. Getting tired all ready of repeating stuff.
Accelerator works it will start. Run ok cold it warmed up and dies. No idle. Not going to repeat it again.

 

[BSB67]

Dam you people still like to jump to conclusions and can not read. Getting tired all ready of repeating stuff.
Accelerator works it will start. Run ok cold it warmed up and dies. No idle. Not going to repeat it again.

Remember, you're the guy that cannot get a simple carburetor to work after you worked on it.

 

[mopar 3 B]

Remember, you're the guy that cannot get a simple carburetor to work after you worked on it.

Yes but I was hoping someone with some TQ intelligence just might have experienced the same problem some where in the past and have a intelligent answer or suggestion.
But I understand we have to play 20 questions instead of reading.

 

[khryslerkid]

Sure wish people could read. That was all in my original post.

I certainly can read and did read your post. You say "Yes it is getting fuel and there is fuel in the bowls at proper levels." Doesn't really say if this is the case when it starts acting up. That's why I asked.

Watch being punchy when people are trying to help. I'm out!

 

[mopar 3 B]

I certainly can read and did read your post. You say "Yes it is getting fuel and there is fuel in the bowls at proper levels." Doesn't really say if this is the case when it starts acting up. That's why I asked.

Watch being punchy when people are trying to help. I'm out!

Yes I realized that. It had been a long frustrating day.
So far the replacement carb is working fine. Was surprised it works at all as the engine it was pulled off of had not been started in 12 years. Just pulled it filled the bowls with fuel, tested accelerator pump and installed it.

I am not giving up on the other one yet. Just needed to get a truck running so I can get back to work tomorrow.

 

[MoparLeo]

A picture is worth more than a 1000 words. Try that. We can't see what you see. Something in the linkages did not go back correctly for the accelerator pump to function from the throttle attachment and the primary plate doesn't move. Phone camera, video would be nice.

 

[mopar 3 B]

A picture is worth more than a 1000 words. Try that. We can't see what you see. Something in the linkages did not go back correctly for the accelerator pump to function from the throttle attachment and the primary plate doesn't move. Phone camera, video would be nice.

Who said anything about the primary plate not moving? This is not my first TQ by the way. Been messing them and their problems for years. This is just the first for this problem and very unexpected. Like if I can not see it it's not going to show up in a picture anyway.