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High / Low Beams - Suggestions Needed

Thought I'd pass this info along: http://www.2040-parts.com/ge-4-headlight-system-3-prong-4000-amp-2-prong-4001-vtg-nos-i2311326/

General Electric (50%), Tung-Sol (25%), and Westinghouse (25%) all supplied headlamp bulbs to Chrysler Corporation through the sixties and seventies. Ford used a lot of GE bulbs. AMC did not.

Fluting pattern refers to the grid of ridges in the front glass lens. Wide flutes are 1/4" wide and narrow flutes are 1/8" wide. See the next to last pic above for a side-by-side comparison. Narrow flute bulbs have some wide flutes, but wide flute bulbs have NO narrow flutes.

The 4000 was introduced by the industry on 12/29/1969 and the 4002 was phased out by the end of 1973. The 4000 is brighter than the 4002 it replaces, hence GE's "Plus 25" designation. Only the very early "Plus 25" bulbs like these had wide flutes and were identical to the old 4002 except for the ink stamp on the back (which doesn't show once installed) and the brighter filament. Most of the 4000 bulbs produced were narrow flute versions. Almost all of the GE 4000 and 4001 bulbs packaged in the common blue and yellow boxes (like the last pic above of a 4001 box) have narrow flutes.

If the box says "Also replaces 5001" it's narrow flute.

If the box is yellow (Westinghouse, Philips, GE) it's narrow flute.

During the 1961 model year, GE, as well as Tung-Sol, made noticeable appearance changes in their headlamps. Your 1961 model Chrysler product could have been delivered with either the earlier style or the style for sale here.
 
Thought I'd pass this info along: http://www.2040-parts.com/ge-4-headlight-system-3-prong-4000-amp-2-prong-4001-vtg-nos-i2311326/

General Electric (50%), Tung-Sol (25%), and Westinghouse (25%) all supplied headlamp bulbs to Chrysler Corporation through the sixties and seventies. Ford used a lot of GE bulbs. AMC did not.

Fluting pattern refers to the grid of ridges in the front glass lens. Wide flutes are 1/4" wide and narrow flutes are 1/8" wide. See the next to last pic above for a side-by-side comparison. Narrow flute bulbs have some wide flutes, but wide flute bulbs have NO narrow flutes.

The 4000 was introduced by the industry on 12/29/1969 and the 4002 was phased out by the end of 1973. The 4000 is brighter than the 4002 it replaces, hence GE's "Plus 25" designation. Only the very early "Plus 25" bulbs like these had wide flutes and were identical to the old 4002 except for the ink stamp on the back (which doesn't show once installed) and the brighter filament. Most of the 4000 bulbs produced were narrow flute versions. Almost all of the GE 4000 and 4001 bulbs packaged in the common blue and yellow boxes (like the last pic above of a 4001 box) have narrow flutes.

If the box says "Also replaces 5001" it's narrow flute.

If the box is yellow (Westinghouse, Philips, GE) it's narrow flute.

During the 1961 model year, GE, as well as Tung-Sol, made noticeable appearance changes in their headlamps. Your 1961 model Chrysler product could have been delivered with either the earlier style or the style for sale here.
WIDE FLUTE
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NARROW FLUTE

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THE DIFFERENCE IS OBVIOUS.........
 
Thanks Justin. When discussing flutes I was thinking it had to do with the back of the bulb where the prongs are.
 
I was thinking long neck vs short neck type of bulb like I've seen at Home Depot.
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If you want to remove the “stress”, current draw, from the original lighting circuits and reduce voltage drop at the bulbs, install relays. Don’t really need to buy a relay kit. The relays and connectors are cheap. As mentioned, if you are going to drive it at night and want to stay with sealed beams for appearance, run the halogen sealed beams. Much better performance over any of the original tungsten based sealed beams
 
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I still have my original GE 4001 high beams, but after the restoration I went with Sylvania Halogens all around, I don't drive much at night plus the car has all new wiring so not really worried about huge pull on the electrical system, and I am sure its not that much more anyway. I checked the 4001s today because you got me curious, and they still work and are still pretty bright, I am guessing they were put on sometime in the 80's so not the original assembly line bulbs, at least I don't think they are, don't know how you could even tell.

Speaking of halogen bulbs, I bought a set of the Phillips and the tabs on the back wouldn't fit my buckets. It's like they used the wrong backs on them. So I went to NAPA and bought their brand, which are Wagners and they fit just fine. I like the looks of them, they're bright, I'm not useing any relays. I've driven a few times after dark without any noticeable voltage drain. Useing the stock 35 amp alternator also.
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Speaking of halogen bulbs, I bought a set of the Phillips and the tabs on the back wouldn't fit my buckets. It's like they used the wrong backs on them. So I went to NAPA and bought their brand, which are Wagners and they fit just fine. I like the looks of them, they're bright, I'm not useing any relays. I've driven a few times after dark without any noticeable voltage drain. Useing the stock 35 amp alternator also.
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I bought those for my daily driver and like how they have NAPA on the glass instead of GE or other names. I am using a plug-n-play relay harness, though.
 
I bought those for my daily driver and like how they have NAPA on the glass instead of GE or other names. I am using a plug-n-play relay harness, though.
Mine has Wagner on them. Not very noticeable. The Phillips has their name across almost the whole lense, very noticeable.
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I know this is an old thread but I was wondering if someone could look close and give me their opinion on whether the 4001 & 4002 Westinghouse bulbs I have pictured below are considered wide flute or narrow flute. I got these recently from a friend and they came in a green Westinghouse box.

Just doing some research. I also purchased some GE bulbs which I believe are more correct for my 69 Charger. I have not received them yet but the GE Bulb flutes appear to be more clear cut on whether they are wide or narrow.

Thank you!




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