"I Know Your Mad At United But"

[Dennis H]

Then there are the passengers who act fool with the TSA. Doing there job. I wouldn't want to do it. Relax. I'm flying to Burbank on Monday on Southwest. $48 from SJC. Less than gas for the Coronet. Pull me aside, give me a bad seat. Don't care.

 

[steve from staten island]

Again....he was escorted off. and past security without incident. THEN he went nuts and raced back into a FEDERALLY Secure area and onto an AIRPLANE. He GOT WHAT HE DESERVED at that point. Again, he's lucky they didn't shoot him. He's an idiot.

He is a idiot and he did get what he deserved at that time. Now United will get what they deserve which is bad publicity. a loss in revenues and a big fat lawsuit which they will very smartly settle or very stupidly fight and lose even more money.

 

[Brandy]

They will settle, and the dipshit and his lawyer know they will, and fast, to duck the bad PR.

 

[ws23jrt]

Home was the wrong word. Four pilots deadheaded at the same time? How did four pilots get to that airport and didnt do another flight on a layover? Remember were not talking one but four. Sounds like there is more to the story

Hey Steve--You are doing what we all do. We ask questions and play out scenarios in our heads.
We are at the bottom of the information ladder. All we can do is chat about the --what if's--
The only -true- thing I see here is this was a mess with many causes.

The "rest of the story" will follow.

 

[Ranger16]

steve from staten island said: ↑

Home was the wrong word. Four pilots deadheaded at the same time? How did four pilots get to that airport and didnt do another flight on a layover? Remember were not talking one but four. Sounds like there is more to the story

There probably is. There is a lot more to crew and aircraft routing and scheduling than you realize. The crew was most likely from the express carrier (Republic), not UAL. Maybe they where finished and where being deadheaded home. Maybe they where being deadheaded out to pick up a flight (maybe 2) who's crew had ruin out of time. Maybe one of the crews where making a connection in SDF. The possible scenarios as to why they needed to be deadheaded could be numerous. The reason is not the point. The carrier can give those seats to whomever they want/need to.

 

[Fran Blacker]

Just heard on O'Reilly Delta will pay up to $10K if get a passenger to volunteer's to be bumped.

 

[Ranger16]

I'll bet that's in mileage plus miles. You can bet it ain't gonna be in cash.

 

[ws23jrt]

Just heard on O'Reilly Delta will pay up to $10K if get a passenger to volunteer's to be bumped.

I am a bit suprised to hear of the 10k offering.
Several times I have been waiting to board a plane and listened to the request for passengers to take a deal to pass on this (over booked) flight.
From my experience someone always took the offer.
The right thing to do is keep upping the offer until it works. This seems like simple stuff.

If this plane trip offered 10K for a passenger to step off the plane. It would likely be empty with a fight for those that want to cash in for the 10K incentive.
Who asked first for the "10K"?---I want mine---Etc.

 

[Fran Blacker]

I am a bit suprised to hear of the 10k offering.
Several times I have been waiting to board a plane and listened to the request for passengers to take a deal to pass on this (over booked) flight.
From my experience someone always took the offer.
The right thing to do is keep upping the offer until it works. This seems like simple stuff.

Up to $10k, this is new today. $1350 is most usually.

 

[khryslerkid]

And there were three who were asked to give up there seats without incident. And probably compensated for doing so.

Did anyone ever interview them?

If the Dr. would have just complied, he would have only have been delayed an hour or two, who knows. But now he's facing a lot more to deal with.

I never heard if or when he made his destination. Did they have to detain him further for questioning for his behavior?

 

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[Runner 68]

I agree with the fact that this guy should have just sucked it up, adapt and overcome....however I travel enough to know this is typical UAL policy.

"Travel with United Air Lines! You'll feel like you never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!"

 

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[ws23jrt]

I would give up the seat (unless my new toy 300K crossram just need one more bolt then able to test drive, I cant wait to test the beast), and I wish all passengers do the same, but that's impossible. Somebody might have important thing to do. Raise up the offer, someone who has least reason to flight will take it.

I like your post. Most of us are on a mission when taking to the air. (It is not cheap)
When I was detained by the TSA I jumped through all of their hoops.
My Mission was a one way ticket to pick up my new hellcat in 2015 for a 1500 mile drive home.
When one makes a plan and it all comes together --a last second change sucks.
I guess that is what all of us deal with when flying. Many plans are made weeks or months ahead and much depends on the details of time and day when the plane lands.

In the big picture we are blessed with the options we have.

 

[Auggie56]

He should have gotten off the plane no argument there. The letter written by some pilots wife is mostly B/S. She brings 9/11 into it, has nothing to do with 9/11. Four pilots stuck somewhere and need to get home is B/S also. How'd they get there in the first place? Its suspect of bad management. Everybody knows the airlines over book.

She was referring to 911, because 911 changed the laws. Which made riding a commercial aircraft much harder on the public, all in the name of security.

 

[Auggie56]

Just heard on O'Reilly Delta will pay up to $10K if get a passenger to volunteer's to be bumped.

That don't sound right. Can there even be 10K in profit, flying a plane load of people now days ?

 

[ws23jrt]

She was referring to 911, because 911 changed the laws. Which made riding a commercial aircraft much harder on the public, all in the name of security.

I agree --pre 911 was a very different world in flying.
It changed big and fast.

 

[SgtLee511]

I posted this separately from the other thread, so it didn't get lost. Please read with an open mind, no matter how you feel about the situation.

https://thepilotwifelife.wordpress....thoughts-from-a-pilot-wife-about-flight-3411/

A Good Read, and there is always more information to be gathered...

 

[SuperStock_]

That don't sound right. Can there even be 10K in profit, flying a plane load of people now days ?

Up to 10K, and that must be called by the supervisor. To my understanding, the bid start low and raise up until someone take the offer (that works for them before the next guy take it). Never reach half of 10K unless you have all passengers are gamblers.

 

[Rick62]

I've flown several million miles. I doubt that any business could treat it's customers as poorly as the major airlines and survive. That said, when somone like this "doctor" behaves like an a-hole, most likely he's an a-hole. http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-doctor-convicted-drugs-sex/ Unfortunately he's probably going to get a big payday from United just for dropping the legal action.