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should 1 increase jet and shooter sizes when switching over to locked out timing? engine is very responsive wicking the throttle in the shop,,but is flat under any kind of load,like it cant take it correctly. did not jet it up for the conversion from an advance curve..below is from a google search on the subject..street driven mostly,,but the .650 roller loves the xtra timing at idle...twin holley 750 DP with 62 and 68 jets..timing is locked at 36.thanks.

""""When you increase the timing at idle the speed of the engine goes up.It goes up because the cylinders start to complete the burn earlier on the power stroke and that puts more energy into the crank instead out the exhaust pipe.When the piston is going down at the end of the exhaust stroke,it sucks in lots of atmosphere that has O2’s in it and this mixes with fuel from the intake and the rpm goes up.See,the throttle plates are shut so you don’t get much air in from them,but you get it in from the exhaust.The exhaust becomes an intake on the overlap.
When you increase the amount of timing at idle you change the amount of vaporisation time that the fuel load in the cylinder sees.The risk that you have when you do this is that it will generally force you to wind down the idle screw,due to the idle increase and this will upset the t-slot setting that is required to get a afr into the cylinders,so you end up with a lean condition in the cylinders and the engine cant take a load correctly.The fuel to run an engine on idle and off-idle before the mains come on ,comes from the transfer slot.

You need to get the timing correct together with the fuel settings.Timing and fuel settings go hand in hand,you just dont do one without the other.""""
 
For kind of a reference my 440 with 750 AED has 74/84 jets.
thanks,,,,do u run locked out timing? or use a curve? i was running 25 initial with 35 total before and had no problems,,i will jet it up and take it back out for a test drive and go from there,,,,,,,,it was weird,i give it a little gas pedal going down the road already,it bogs then after a couple of seconds starts pulling very lazily..
 
o.k...changed a few things today,
primary jets r stock 68's now..(up from 62's)
secondarys 78's.
5.5 power valve based upon 8-9 inches vacuum in gear at idle.(opens sooner)
.005 gap on accelerator pump arms.
adjusted secondary idle screws undernieth carb.to help the T-slot.
28 primary shooters.
35 secondarys.
fuel pressure set at 6 lbs.

that woke it up! it will pull hard now and snarl when doing it! except,,,,,,,

major stumble off idle,,,,,tomorrow will try no gap in accelerator pump arm,35 primary shooters,and turn down secondary idle screws to try and get primarys back in the T-slot...motor wants to idle at around 1400....any thoughts on off idle stumble??runs good now except for that....36 degree's locked timing.
 
No gap on accelerator pump.
Do you have intermediate air bleeds?
apparently when they say .005 gap,,thats all the way open! whoops...reduce it to 0 with the larger shooters and take a look at the cams..no adjustable intermediate bleeds,,,didn't realize when i bought them that they cheaped out and put the secondary idle adjustment screw on the underside of the carbs! i have to pull the carbs to set idle,,holley 9379..all 4 air mix screws became really responsive when the T-slot was exposed just right,,but adjusting them the engine rpm's just kept going up and up..which is good but..have to remove to adjust engine speed..
 
its running alot better now!70 main jets,80 secondarys,35 shooters,still playing with accelerator pump cams but its close.off idle the throttle response is instant,but driving down the road and then stab the throttle there is still a hesitation,,
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..as long as it doesn't blow up in the next few weeks i'm registered for the santa cruz harbor car show...will be adding another video of it under power,,

 
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