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Look for advice on a low mileage 70 Satellite that I am considering purchasing.
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Good advice from R413. If you can't do body work and don't have a wad of cash pass on this car. Body work is the most expensive part of having a nice car.
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First of all , thank you to all that have replied , I truly appreciate the honest and candid feedback.
To answer some of the questions,
- What are your plans for it? - make it a driver that doesn't need to be a show car, but reliable enough for local cruise nights and an occasional road trip. Anything too shiny makes me terrified lol.
- What is your budget? - $20k would be ideal for a do nothing car that I can just enjoy
- How much is it for sale for? - $10K
- Have you seen it in person or just looking at photos like us? - yes I took these pictures today when I saw the car, I have not had any experience buying a vintage vehicle so this was all new to me.
- I assume you have seen it in person if you know it starts and drives well, or have you seen a video? - Test drove it myself around the block , it started up right away and didn't have any clunks or noises while driving it. I was surprised by the ride comfort and the torquey feel the car had. It by no means will win any races, but felt solid when driving it.
Some background on me, my dad's first car was a 1970 or 71 Duster (cant tell the exact year). We lost him a year ago, and it somehow triggered an itch in me to bring back something from my childhood that was familiar. Hist duster had the same hubcaps this satellite has and I just had a flood of thoughts that made me want to jump on it! Its never good to make an emotional decision! I haven't found a duster that I love and I love the 68-70 B-body style best out of all the Mopars, and in particular the 70 is my favorite of that generation, so as I started looking this one came up.
I'm pragmatic and I want to be realistic, and I am leaning towards passing on this one.
Pics attached , a side view of the Satellite and my dad's old rig. I myself drive a 2012 Charger RT and a Durango RT.
To answer some of the questions,
- What are your plans for it? - make it a driver that doesn't need to be a show car, but reliable enough for local cruise nights and an occasional road trip. Anything too shiny makes me terrified lol.
- What is your budget? - $20k would be ideal for a do nothing car that I can just enjoy
- How much is it for sale for? - $10K
- Have you seen it in person or just looking at photos like us? - yes I took these pictures today when I saw the car, I have not had any experience buying a vintage vehicle so this was all new to me.
- I assume you have seen it in person if you know it starts and drives well, or have you seen a video? - Test drove it myself around the block , it started up right away and didn't have any clunks or noises while driving it. I was surprised by the ride comfort and the torquey feel the car had. It by no means will win any races, but felt solid when driving it.
Some background on me, my dad's first car was a 1970 or 71 Duster (cant tell the exact year). We lost him a year ago, and it somehow triggered an itch in me to bring back something from my childhood that was familiar. Hist duster had the same hubcaps this satellite has and I just had a flood of thoughts that made me want to jump on it! Its never good to make an emotional decision! I haven't found a duster that I love and I love the 68-70 B-body style best out of all the Mopars, and in particular the 70 is my favorite of that generation, so as I started looking this one came up.
I'm pragmatic and I want to be realistic, and I am leaning towards passing on this one.
Pics attached , a side view of the Satellite and my dad's old rig. I myself drive a 2012 Charger RT and a Durango RT.
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They certainly ride better than any A or E body on the highway with more than one person.
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Im so sorry, it is one of my Pet peeves as well , I attached in my post just prior to this reply. I was in a scramble when I got to the car to look at it and didnt really take the time to get a good shot.
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Well you picked the most expensive years (for the most part). Some nice first gen chargers for around 20k. Here is a one that has a 383 (very nice motor)and factory ac. (Very desirable). Nice driver. Looks like what you’re looking for. Nice driver and you can tinker with it. Needs a few things like headlight doors and ac hooked up but cosmetically it doesn’t look like it needs much of anything. This is just one example of what you can get for 20k in a b body. I always loved the interior of the first gen chargers. The instrument cluster is gorgeous as well as the seats. But my point is there are a lot of nice B Bodies between $20-$30k if you expand your search beyond 68-70. Not just chargers either.
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$20,000Here’s a very nice 1967 Dodge Charger survivor with the 325HP 383 Magnum V8 4-barrel. The 54k miles on the odometer rolled over once as the original interior is in amazing condition without any tears or rips. There is one crack down the center of the dash and otherwise, she’s in great shape. The motor was rebuilt and does not have any leaks and the freeze plugs still look like new. It’s been repainted the original WW1 white that’s a good driver quality condition and has the black interior. It is a power steering and original AC car with every component still intact but as you can see under the hood it is not connected as with the heater hoses.
This is one of my personal vehicles and I’ve gone through and replaced the valve cover gaskets, transmission fluid/filter, rear diff flush and new seals, new tires 500 miles ago, all new shocks all around, install all new wheel bearings, u-joints, rebuilt the brakes including new hoses and wheel cylinders, strut rod bushings, etc. She fires right up, gets up and runs out smoothly and is ready to cruise.
The headlights work but the doors are non-functioning as with some dash gauges. I did put power to the doors, lubricated them and they fully function so it has to be the relays. May have replaced shortly. The current pricing reflects and will start to check the motors and relays and replace if necessary. Hagerty shows fair condition (#4) at $19k and good condition (#3) at $32k so this one is priced right.
Walkaround and undercarriage videos included and cold start with driving videos to follow. Let me know if you have any questions or would like to see additional areas.
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Nice. A 67 to boot.
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If you've got $20k to spend then don't buy the '70 Satellite for $10k, it's not worth it if you're inexperienced. You could find yourself in deep ****.
Find a nice car for $18k-$20k - they are out there. As said above, the more models/years you can include in your search, the more luck you will have.
Find a nice car for $18k-$20k - they are out there. As said above, the more models/years you can include in your search, the more luck you will have.
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I’d offer maybe 5 for that car. Maybe. Problem is the wasted cars are worth more on a sliding scale than nice cars. Some of it is the parts value. Some of it is there are more people with a little cash to say they have a certain car, than those that have a lot. Put another way, a 40k car isn’t twice as nice as a 20k car. It’s more like five times as good.
I get wanting a certain year. I like what I like and can’t get worked up to own other stuff. Just doesn’t get my blood pumping, unless it was some screaming deal, which don’t seem to be available anymore.
My advice would be to put the 20k down on a 35-45k car and be many dollars ahead in the end, even after paying interest. Plus you’d get a car to enjoy today. That 10k car for instance will cost about 75k to even get close to what a 50k car is like and too boot, nobody would ever give you 50k for a non high performance car.
I get wanting a certain year. I like what I like and can’t get worked up to own other stuff. Just doesn’t get my blood pumping, unless it was some screaming deal, which don’t seem to be available anymore.
My advice would be to put the 20k down on a 35-45k car and be many dollars ahead in the end, even after paying interest. Plus you’d get a car to enjoy today. That 10k car for instance will cost about 75k to even get close to what a 50k car is like and too boot, nobody would ever give you 50k for a non high performance car.
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I appreciate the emotional connections to a specific make and model. In my case if was a new '69 GTX I test drove as a teenager. I ended up owning four nearly identical cars, ranging from a partially restored project, to a nicely preserved driver, to a well restored numbers matching car, and ultimately - the actual car that started it all, restored to near concours level, with incredible documentation and complete history.
The project car was sold at a loss before completion, I decided to dig a small hole, rather than a bigger one. The driver and the first restored car were both sold at near break even after being enjoyed for over five years apiece. The current one was by far the most expensive initially. I spent two decades negotiating to buy it, and did not overpay. I turned down a serious offer that was nearly double the purchase price a year after I bought it.
As the others have said, if you can be patient, the car that costs more up front will be cheaper in the end, but much harder to find.
The project car was sold at a loss before completion, I decided to dig a small hole, rather than a bigger one. The driver and the first restored car were both sold at near break even after being enjoyed for over five years apiece. The current one was by far the most expensive initially. I spent two decades negotiating to buy it, and did not overpay. I turned down a serious offer that was nearly double the purchase price a year after I bought it.
As the others have said, if you can be patient, the car that costs more up front will be cheaper in the end, but much harder to find.
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Buy the best body/chassis you can.
If you could buy it for around 5K or less.
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10k .....Ouch.
if you Really like the car,and you havent poked your finger thru the sail panels,you might could talk the seller down,but hes already in lala land at 10.
John Folz
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10k is a little steep for that car. Price can vary a little depending on your location. If you really like the car a fair price would be 5k to 7k IMHO. As others have mentioned its not a "Roadrunner" or "GTX" but is still a cool car from a desirable year. Overall the only one who can determine the "Right Price" is you yourself
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$10k to buy and $20k to get the metal and body work done, possibly with paint. Another $10k to do the interior right, $10k for an engine rebuild, $10k for the rest, and figure another $5k minimum for random stuff. $65k minimum with purchase price to restore. Driver quality? Maybe half that, roughly $25-30k. At least you would know how it's put together, there's a lot of hack work done out there on cars that many would say are nice.
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Great car to learn how to restore a car but not worth putting 15 to 20k in to end up with a nice bare bones 318 satellite. Few weekends you could clean it up and gave a cool driver. All depends on price of the car and what you want to end up with. If you want it to be a show type car move on find one done you'll save a lot of money!! Good luck
The vinyl top is not OEM.. With the seam in the middle. Mopar never did that.
YY1 said it good and have the roof checked. Dutchman panel is always a spot for repairs
so some panels might be available.
Good luck figuring this out.
YY1 said it good and have the roof checked. Dutchman panel is always a spot for repairs
so some panels might be available.
Good luck figuring this out.
440-Powered 1968 Plymouth Sport Satellite Hardtop
Here is one for you! Probably get it for way less than you'll put into the one your looking at!
Here is one for you! Probably get it for way less than you'll put into the one your looking at!
70runner
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Bought 70 Sport Satellite driver for daughter many many moons ago. She drove it several years to Disneyland job. Learned a lot keeping it running, great first entry into vintage mopars. As others have said, a restoration of this era is big bucks and the Satellite will come up short on ROI. Offer 4-5K, make it a decent driver as learning project.
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