Muncie 4 speed to 440

[Mopar7006]

Anyone ever put a Muncie 4 speed behind there big block? I got a Muncie 4 speed on trade for a junk 8 3/4 rear end. Plan on putting it my 70 Charger scraptona build. My brother in law owns a transmission shop he freshened it up for cheap and bottle of bourbon. Got a brand new quick time 6079 belhousing for $100. I’m in this setup pretty cheap so far. Just wondering if anyone had any issues with the install? Thanks for any info.

 

[1967coronet]

 

[padam]

He has to be trolling us. Nobody will bite on LS swap bait anymore?

 

[Rebelrouser]

No but back in the day I put several A833 4 speeds behind Chevy's. Muncie transmissions don't even have a strong enough case let alone gears to handle a good muscle car.

 

[YY1]

Every muncie I've driven is awful compared to NP.

MUCH harder to find gears and not as positive of an engagement.

 

[toolmanmike]

Anyone ever put a Muncie 4 speed behind there big block? I got a Muncie 4 speed on trade for a junk 8 3/4 rear end. Plan on putting it my 70 Charger scraptona build. My brother in law owns a transmission shop he freshened it up for cheap and bottle of bourbon. Got a brand new quick time 6079 belhousing for $100. I’m in this setup pretty cheap so far. Just wondering if anyone had any issues with the install? Thanks for any info.

You don't want a Munchie! They aren't half as tough as an 833.

 

[lewtot184]

input shaft is too short on the muncie; unless you can find a bellhousing to adapt. factory 833 trans and parts are much easier to work with.

 

[mmissile]

I've purchased many 833's cut for Chevy racecars.

 

[YY1]

There is even a chevy/gm OEM bellhousing that accepts both bolt patterns.

 

[toolmanmike]

GM used the stronger Borg Warner T10 and aluminum case Super T 10's in many of their performance cars.

 

[Runcharger]

Put it up for trade. A833 is a superor piece and it will fit. GM guys arent the brightest, it should be easy to trade.

 

[WileE]

Answer to OP: No. Why ? : No valid reason to do so.

 

[matthon]

I know Hot Heads has an adapter to put a Muncie behind an early Hemi with the cast in bellhousing.
Maybe check with them.

 

[Mopar7006]

input shaft is too short on the muncie; unless you can find a bellhousing to adapt. factory 833 trans and parts are much easier to work with.

I have the correct Bellhousing. Brand new QuickTime meant to adapt

 

[AR67GTX]

Some of the stuff above about Muncie’s is pretty stretched, especially about a T10 be stronger. A T10 is not even close to a Muncie in strength. GM developed the Muncie to replace the weak-kneed T10 and Ford did the same with its Toploader. A super T10 is different transmission. But yes, a Muncie is not as ultimately strong as an A833 but it held up behind L88s/LS6s, Buick Stage 1/2 and others. I currently own all 3 - a Muncie, a Toploader and an A833. Of the 3 the Toploader is the sweetest of the bunch for driving, maybe not strength.

But - I can’t see trying to put a Muncie in a Mopar. Everything will turn into a challenge. The pilot bushing, the lower clutch linkage, the speedometer cable, the shift linkage, the shifter mount, the transmission mount, the yoke u-joint, the reverse lights hook up. As Runcharger said, put it up for sale and get an A833.

 

[Mopar7006]

I have been looking. For a A833 here in Florida people want crazy money for a unit that needs rebuilt. I got to swap meets all the time, most A833 $1200-$1400 plus they need gone through. Right now I have the correct quick time belhousing to bolt up to my 440. Transmission is fresh rebuild. I’m into less than $500. I had Muncie in my Chevelle never no issues. My charger is not going to be some crazy build just a fun car to rip around.

 

[Mopar7006]

Thanks for all the good reply’s I may test the waters on selling the Muncie. Or keep it. Not really worried about the fitment issues expecting that, Thats the fun of building cars the challenges.

 

[lewtot184]

Pretty certain you'd have to fab a crossmember and some drivedhaft mods. Speedometer issues. Maybe a can of worms when you think about just bolting something else in.

 

[AR67GTX]

I was trying to sell my 23 spline A833 off before the holidays and got down to $800 and not a singe inquiry. It’s going back in my car. There are a few 23 splines advertised recently on the forums in the $900 to $2,000 range. I doubt they find anyone interested. I don’t see the market out there. The 5-speed craze has probably created a bit of a glut of used ones and the demand just isn’t there to support what most people are asking.

 

[RemCharger]

I was trying to sell my 23 spline A833 off before the holidays and got down to $800 and not a singe inquiry. It’s going back in my car. There are a few 23 splines advertised recently on the forums in the $900 to $2,000 range. I doubt they find anyone interested. I don’t see the market out there. The 5-speed craze has probably created a bit of a glut of used ones and the demand just isn’t there to support what most people are asking.

So the results from your water test were... it's cold?