new 440 build

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  1. greenmachine

    greenmachine Well-Known Member

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    Happy New Year Eve!
    So after I found out my engine was junk I had the new quality engine builder write me a quote to build a fresh engine. My original block was done, crank was shot, only real things saveable were the rods, intake (M1), and possible re-grind of the bullet racing cam. Because this is the first true professional engine build I am getting myself into I wanted to list his estimate to gain opinions if this seems reasonable cost. Here we go: short block is $7274.00
    Dissasemble engine, break down heads, mag 300.
    tap bolt holes 75
    align hone and install arp studs 140
    bore and hone with torque plates 275
    R&R pistons fit/align rods 100
    surface block/square 150
    surface block top 50
    drill block for 1/2' pick up 85
    grind crank and polish 150
    balance assembly 300
    intstall camshaft bearings freeze plugs 75
    fit and file rings 75
    install bearings in block 105
    disassemble new heads 150
    assemble performance engine 650
    dyno 750
    440 block sonic checked 600
    440 crank cleaned 100
    ic 836-30 12 cc dish pistons for 84 cc heads 645
    43M 5528+030 ring set 142
    ACL perf. rod bearings 139
    clevite main bearings 148
    durabond camshaft bearings 43
    brass freeze plugs 19
    crankshaft key 9
    oil pump shaft bushing 4
    regrind cam shaft 200
    shipping of cam 35
    gp 1006 gaterman lifters 520
    lifter freight 20
    coated steel gear oil pump shaft 209
    freight on oil shaft 15
    billet main seal retainer 99
    melling pump 108
    torington camshaft thrust Bearing 32
    smith bros. push rods 215
    felpro timing gear gasket 22
    felpro bathtub gaskets 40
    rear main seal 99
    intake gasets 21
    valve cover gaskets 33
    mopar orange 9
    shop supplies 15
    env. fee 15
    joe gibs oil 85
    oil filter 9
    spark plugs 24
    dyno fuel 50
     
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    Jerry Hall Well-Known Member

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    Who is furnishing the block and crank or do you have to buy that also?
     
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    If you are supplying the block... $600 for a sonic check is ridiculous! If he’s supplying the block, then you are paying roughly $475 for the block... sonic checks generally run $125
     
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    Builder has a crank and supplier of sonic checked blocks. He has 6 ready to go blocks at this time.
     
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    Builder has a crank and supplier of sonic checked blocks. He has 6 ready to go blocks at this time.
     
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    Sorry for repeat posts. Phone glitch.
     
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    I'd say not a bad price with him supplying the block and crank. I usually end up with 4-5K in a build with no dyno time. But that does include head work, and we assembly everything.
     
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    Yea, with rpm heads all in I’m looking at 9500.00. Spendy. But his reputation is well known as a good and attention to detail builder.
     
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    exactly why I only pay for any machine work absolutely necessary and assemble my engines myself.
     
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      Dyno price ($750) and fuel for dyno ($50) seems very high. I paid half that for 5 hrs of dyno with gas. Cam work price seems high (compared to new) but I'm not sure of that cam.

      I've had my 440 rebuilt in 2019 and found the total price quotes varied by a large margin. Check out the complete 440 crate engine prices or complete performance rebuilt engines from other businesses.
       
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      Only cme does big block crates that I can find and that’s across the country. I want a builder that’s close if there’s a problem. I’m checking with other builders to get more price quotes. I appreciate the input.
       
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