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North American XB-70 Valkyrie

Also known as the Nuclear Triad from my days in SAC.
For Alert Force, for Alert Force, Klaxon Klaxon Klaxon!

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You are correct !
The Nuclear Triad

Ha Ha
Kids today have no idea what a Klaxon is!
I was at Castle AFB late 70s
Nuclear mission,
Cool stuff
That Klaxon went of and you had (Dorm rat) 20 minutes to be there but it was more like 15 min hey John?

B-52s on Alert pad
KC-135s on Alert pad
F-106s on alert pad

Strategic Air Command
Air defense Command
Tactical Air Command
Military Air Lift Command
 
So,
The XB-70 crashed here at Edwards
The "Flight Test Mission" was all finished.
A few other jets were "in the air" at the time
The Engine manufacturing REP for "GE?" was here and asked if all the "GE" (?) powered aircraft could do a formation and Fly By for a photo op.
Photo Chase was flying with the test Mission.
(We do this on the F-22 for many missions. Called a "Chase with Photog")
All Formed up and that is when the Vortex on the right side aft tail pulled the F-104 into the right tail of the XB-70
Moments later the catastrophic crash occurred.
Let us not forget, it was Joe walker flying the F-104 (Famous X-15 and everything else pilot)
NASA Chief Test Pilot Joe Walker (F-104 pilot) and Carl Cross (XB-70 co-pilot) died.

Excerpt from "Secret Heroes"
The F-104 Starfighter flown by Test Pilot Walker and two other supersonic jets, one flown by Air Force Col. Joseph F. Cotton, had closed their formation for the photo shoot when suddenly the collision occurred. Joe Walker’s F-104 was in flames just after impact with the XB-70, both vertical stabilizers have been sheared off of the XB-70.
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Some close to the investigation of the crash believed that if Walker got in so close as bring the tail up under the XB-70 wing, the result would be a rapid pitch up. The reason being, the effectiveness of the F-104 tail was neutralized and the F-104 aircraft would normally pitch up. With that, the left wing of the F-104 struck the XB-70 wing causing the pitch and roll across the top to continue or accelerate. Walker had not yet flown the XB-70, and was scheduled for the next day. Consequently, he had not experienced the remarkably rapid acceleration capabilities of the Valkyrie.

NASA's Director of Biological research (Major Roman, M.D.), who was the investigating doctor at the site, reported that Walker's F-104 was inverted as it passed across the top of the XB-70 and struck the XB-70 vertical tails and that the vertical stabilizer of the XB-70 had split Walker's cockpit and flight-helmet in half.

Having slammed across the top of the bomber's tail assembly --- damaging one of the tail vertical stabilizers and breaking off the other --- the Starfighter then cart wheeled and exploded into a plume of flame. XB-70 started a flat spin shortly after collision of the F-104 because of the missing vertical stabs and part of the wing. A hued vapor trail of JP-8 fuel spewed from the XB-70. Though the engines are still running, the craft did not catch fire.

The crash site is visited yearly here at Edwards AFB
(We have a lot of them out here, A DANGEROUS business)

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Joe Walker

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So,
The XB-70 crashed here at Edwards
The "Flight Test Mission" was all finished.
A few other jets were "in the air" at the time
The Engine manufacturing REP for "GE?" was here and asked if all the "GE" (?) powered aircraft could do a formation and Fly By for a photo op.
Photo Chase was flying with the test Mission.
(We do this on the F-22 for many missions. Called a "Chase with Photog")
All Formed up and that is when the Vortex on the right side aft tail pulled the F-104 into the right tail of the XB-70
Moments later the catastrophic crash occurred.
Let us not forget, it was Joe walker flying the F-104 (Famous X-15 and everything else pilot)
NASA Chief Test Pilot Joe Walker (F-104 pilot) and Carl Cross (XB-70 co-pilot) died.

Excerpt from "Secret Heroes"
The F-104 Starfighter flown by Test Pilot Walker and two other supersonic jets, one flown by Air Force Col. Joseph F. Cotton, had closed their formation for the photo shoot when suddenly the collision occurred. Joe Walker’s F-104 was in flames just after impact with the XB-70, both vertical stabilizers have been sheared off of the XB-70.


Some close to the investigation of the crash believed that if Walker got in so close as bring the tail up under the XB-70 wing, the result would be a rapid pitch up. The reason being, the effectiveness of the F-104 tail was neutralized and the F-104 aircraft would normally pitch up. With that, the left wing of the F-104 struck the XB-70 wing causing the pitch and roll across the top to continue or accelerate. Walker had not yet flown the XB-70, and was scheduled for the next day. Consequently, he had not experienced the remarkably rapid acceleration capabilities of the Valkyrie.

NASA's Director of Biological research (Major Roman, M.D.), who was the investigating doctor at the site, reported that Walker's F-104 was inverted as it passed across the top of the XB-70 and struck the XB-70 vertical tails and that the vertical stabilizer of the XB-70 had split Walker's cockpit and flight-helmet in half.

Having slammed across the top of the bomber's tail assembly --- damaging one of the tail vertical stabilizers and breaking off the other --- the Starfighter then cart wheeled and exploded into a plume of flame. XB-70 started a flat spin shortly after collision of the F-104 because of the missing vertical stabs and part of the wing. A hued vapor trail of JP-8 fuel spewed from the XB-70. Though the engines are still running, the craft did not catch fire.

The crash site is visited yearly here at Edwards AFB
(We have a lot of them out here, A DANGEROUS business)

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Joe Walker

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A remarkable and sad story....but also a tribute how brave those men were. I've seen pics of the accident here and there as well.
 
If you've got the time for a nice long read (I just did) then go here http://xb70.interceptor.com/ for a good description of all the early flights, the glitches and problems to be ironed out and why the second ship (the one that crashed) was so much better than the survivor.

Oh, and if you want to buy a piece of the wreckage, you can do that too. http://www.check-six.com/Specimens/xb70page.htm
 
If you've got the time for a nice long read (I just did) then go here http://xb70.interceptor.com/ for a good description of all the early flights, the glitches and problems to be ironed out and why the second ship (the one that crashed) was so much better than the survivor.

Oh, and if you want to buy a piece of the wreckage, you can do that too. http://www.check-six.com/Specimens/xb70page.htm


Thanks
Great info Photon
When it cools down I will go visit the CRASH Site and take some pics and post them.

Remember guys,
Working with the F-22 I CAN NOT take pics here at Edwards.
So sorry but we are so heavily classified here...
 
Wish I could
Crazy thing is, when I go to Vegas (Nellis) you can (Guest/stranger) can request a photo pass and you can cross the Red Line at the Controlled Entry Point and take pics!

:wtf:
 
If you've got the time for a nice long read (I just did) then go here http://xb70.interceptor.com/ for a good description of all the early flights, the glitches and problems to be ironed out and why the second ship (the one that crashed) was so much better than the survivor.

Oh, and if you want to buy a piece of the wreckage, you can do that too. http://www.check-six.com/Specimens/xb70page.htm
Good stuff, Thanks. LOL,,,roll out of AV-1 5/11/64, My eleventh birthday
 
The rooskies probably
Wow, the XB70 appears to have kept right on rolling along there for a while after being clipped by the '104.


Yeah,
I read a transcript somewhere that stated the distance from the Right Horizontal and the controls was something like 184 ft.
So, if anyone has sat in the "seat" of a EC-135E or KC-135 knows: as you pull on the stick, you wait a minute or two for the response.
So, the crew was unaware at the time a Catastrophic failure was imminent.
 
Yeah,
I read a transcript somewhere that stated the distance from the Right Horizontal and the controls was something like 184 ft.
So, if anyone has sat in the "seat" of a EC-135E or KC-135 knows: as you pull on the stick, you wait a minute or two for the response.
So, the crew was unaware at the time a Catastrophic failure was imminent.

I can vouch for that, no doubt!
 
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