1. diesel_lv

    diesel_lv Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    664
    Likes Received:
    592
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2018
    Location:
    Arizona
    Local Time:
    1:35 AM
    For those that swear by old steel vs new in a crash.
     
    • Thanks! Thanks! x 2
    • 67charger383

      67charger383 Well-Known Member

      Messages:
      1,209
      Likes Received:
      2248
      Joined:
      Dec 13, 2019
      Location:
      Maryland
      Local Time:
      3:35 AM
      I've seen this before. That Bel Air was a polished up and painted rust bucket pos (you can actually see rust dust and dirt fly on impact), and was a inline 6 car which wouldn't have held up as well in an impact. Not to mention that this is a GM x frame car and any full frame (or even a unibody) would have fared better.
       
      • Like Like x 3
      • Agree Agree x 3
      • 67charger383

        67charger383 Well-Known Member

        Messages:
        1,209
        Likes Received:
        2248
        Joined:
        Dec 13, 2019
        Location:
        Maryland
        Local Time:
        3:35 AM
        Here is a comment on a article about this test on the web:
        upload_2021-2-28_20-31-33.png
         
        • Like Like x 2
        • onlyone

          onlyone Bird of Pray FBBO Gold Member

          Messages:
          2,473
          Likes Received:
          1855
          Joined:
          Jun 24, 2013
          Location:
          State of Denial
          Local Time:
          2:35 AM
          The cowls are ticking time bombs in these cars.
          I often wonder about cars that are dipped (or blasted) but the inside of the cowl goes unchecked and untouched.
          I'm doing a cowl top right now on a 69 B body and the bottom was galvanized the top was not.
          Even with that, I've managed to catch the bottom just in time.
          9734987.jpg
           
          • Like Like x 1
          • SgtSuperbird

            SgtSuperbird Well-Known Member

            Messages:
            214
            Likes Received:
            367
            Joined:
            Jun 4, 2019
            Location:
            Clay, MI
            Local Time:
            3:35 AM
            I believe the point of the video is that tech/design improvements have greatly improved the survivability of a serious crash in a modern vehicle.

            - Retired Fire Chief, 34 years in the fire service
             
            • Agree Agree x 3
            • Like Like x 1
            • jimt1971rr

              jimt1971rr Well-Known Member

              Messages:
              266
              Likes Received:
              148
              Joined:
              Aug 19, 2014
              Location:
              Long Beach, ca
              Local Time:
              12:35 AM
              Although I don't have any personal experience with these cars, I did have a person run into my old 68 Barracuda in a similar manner in the mid 90s.

              My car was parked in front of my house when it was hit by a mid 80s T-Bird and knocked a house length. The front corner of my car was crushed, the frame rail bent, inner fender pushed into the steering column, and part of the driver's door damaged from the impact. The interior of the car was completely intact. Not even a crack in the dash.

              The driver if the T-Bird probably would have run, illegal alien, but his tire broke off.

              This is why I have such a hard time with this video. I knew there is something about it that was a miss.
               
              • Like Like x 1
              • Agree Agree x 1
              • 67charger383

                67charger383 Well-Known Member

                Messages:
                1,209
                Likes Received:
                2248
                Joined:
                Dec 13, 2019
                Location:
                Maryland
                Local Time:
                3:35 AM
                Car was a polished rust bucket with the engine removed.
                 
                • Like Like x 1
                • Agree Agree x 1
                • WileERobby

                  WileERobby Well-Known Member

                  Messages:
                  7,033
                  Likes Received:
                  8813
                  Joined:
                  Sep 15, 2009
                  Location:
                  State of insanity
                  Local Time:
                  3:35 AM
                  This is so old, it makes me look young. As mentioned before, it's hard to find a worse example than a rusted GM X-frame car, the worst possible chassis design. Those cars are garbage.
                   
                  • Like Like x 1
                  • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
                  • Agree Agree x 1
                  • diesel_lv

                    diesel_lv Well-Known Member

                    Messages:
                    664
                    Likes Received:
                    592
                    Joined:
                    Dec 17, 2018
                    Location:
                    Arizona
                    Local Time:
                    1:35 AM
                    The point isn't the damage to the car, it is the damage to the occupants. Had the Chevy not given, the damage to the Chevy occupants would most likely been worse.
                     
                    • Like Like x 1
                    • Agree Agree x 1
                    • 67charger383

                      67charger383 Well-Known Member

                      Messages:
                      1,209
                      Likes Received:
                      2248
                      Joined:
                      Dec 13, 2019
                      Location:
                      Maryland
                      Local Time:
                      3:35 AM
                      Chevy wouldn't have given if they were honest and used a rust free example with a engine under the hood... :rolleyes:
                       
                      • Like Like x 1
                      • DeltaV

                        DeltaV Beam us up! FBBO Gold Member

                        Messages:
                        10,243
                        Likes Received:
                        27179
                        Joined:
                        Jul 11, 2015
                        Location:
                        Savannah River
                        Local Time:
                        3:35 AM
                        20200130_143146.jpg
                        :D
                         
                        • Agree Agree x 2
                        • Like Like x 1
                        • blue69runner

                          blue69runner Well-Known Member

                          Messages:
                          419
                          Likes Received:
                          470
                          Joined:
                          Jun 1, 2020
                          Location:
                          Lake Wales Fl.
                          Local Time:
                          3:35 AM
                          Yes my upper and lower cowl replaced on this 69 runner. The big problem is it only got primed then put together. Some paint got shot through the drip opening. When car was painted. On the other hand when doing the car painted it all then assembled it. So the only bad catch all is where the fresh air duct's go through the lower cowl. Can't clean behind them and they are really tight spaced at the inner part. So high pressure water hose is the only way I see to clean them but who dose that.
                           
                        • blue69runner

                          blue69runner Well-Known Member

                          Messages:
                          419
                          Likes Received:
                          470
                          Joined:
                          Jun 1, 2020
                          Location:
                          Lake Wales Fl.
                          Local Time:
                          3:35 AM
                          Just to add how dose plastic hold up to a crash over metal.
                           
                          • Agree Agree x 1
                          • DeltaV

                            DeltaV Beam us up! FBBO Gold Member

                            Messages:
                            10,243
                            Likes Received:
                            27179
                            Joined:
                            Jul 11, 2015
                            Location:
                            Savannah River
                            Local Time:
                            3:35 AM
                            We have many two-lane roads here in coastal with 55 mph speed limits. All too often there are head-on car/pickup/SUV collisions; and many are multiple fatality accidents. They occurred during daylight hours and weather was not a contributing factor.
                             
                          • blue69runner

                            blue69runner Well-Known Member

                            Messages:
                            419
                            Likes Received:
                            470
                            Joined:
                            Jun 1, 2020
                            Location:
                            Lake Wales Fl.
                            Local Time:
                            3:35 AM
                            No it is that darn cell phone or trying to take a picture while driving.
                             
                            • Agree Agree x 1
                            • Dennis H

                              Dennis H FBBO Gold Member FBBO Gold Member

                              Messages:
                              14,865
                              Likes Received:
                              18522
                              Joined:
                              Jul 11, 2010
                              Location:
                              San Jose
                              Local Time:
                              2:35 AM
                              Getting sick of seeing that bullshit video.
                               
                              • Agree Agree x 4
                              • Like Like x 1
                              • SgtSuperbird

                                SgtSuperbird Well-Known Member

                                Messages:
                                214
                                Likes Received:
                                367
                                Joined:
                                Jun 4, 2019
                                Location:
                                Clay, MI
                                Local Time:
                                3:35 AM
                                • Agree Agree x 3
                                • Like Like x 1
                                • Michael_

                                  Michael_ FBBO Gold Member FBBO Gold Member

                                  Messages:
                                  600
                                  Likes Received:
                                  519
                                  Joined:
                                  Jan 31, 2019
                                  Location:
                                  Germany
                                  Local Time:
                                  9:35 AM
                                  I already thought it might be fishy. Now i know that i was right. :D
                                   
                                  • Like Like x 2
                                  • blue69runner

                                    blue69runner Well-Known Member

                                    Messages:
                                    419
                                    Likes Received:
                                    470
                                    Joined:
                                    Jun 1, 2020
                                    Location:
                                    Lake Wales Fl.
                                    Local Time:
                                    3:35 AM
                                    Think Seat belts where a big contributor to that fact. Also soft dashes. Oh and the dreaded air bag. That can brake your neck.
                                     
                                    • Agree Agree x 1
                                    • Ironbuilt

                                      Ironbuilt FBBO Gold Member FBBO Gold Member

                                      Messages:
                                      15,470
                                      Likes Received:
                                      33233
                                      Joined:
                                      Jul 1, 2017
                                      Location:
                                      North Carolina
                                      Local Time:
                                      3:35 AM
                                      In my daily driver, I am not worried about a crash, though I pray that it doesn't happen.

                                      20210223_090540.jpg
                                       
                                      • Like Like x 4
                                      • Agree Agree x 2
                                      • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
                                      1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                                        By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.