What's it Worth Premium for numbers matching vs NOM

[68BabyBlue]

The gist I’ve gotten from the legit responses here and elsewhere is it’s about 20%. You then have to get down to the details to go up or down from there. My rough rule of thumb had been a 4 speed NOM is pretty close and in this case it was on my low end personal estimate of 20% on the 727s, not the 30% I’ve noticed because it had some condition issues.

So I tend to think this car would be slightly above that and that would follow consensus thinking. Unfortunately I think this will be another one where I point all this out and am told my offer isn’t welcome. I’ve had several cars over the last few years where that has happened, and the car remains unsold on the market. One that sticks out is a 68 GTX. Car was auctioned at least 4 times and we had those public numbers to go off of. I offered a decent amount over that I felt the car was reasonably worth. Guy was like 40%+ north and still had the car last I knew. Just one example.

I spent 20 years trying to buy my current GTX from the last owner. The car is extremely heavily optioned, with incredible provenance, numbers matching to extreme, only three dated coded parts don't have correct numbers. Seller beat the daylights out of me on the numbers matching "one of one" status when we negotiated the sale.

My stance was that at the end of the day, it was a really nice 440 automatic, not a Hemi, not a four speed, and not a convertible. I was prepared to walk away, and closed the deal for book price. Original owner's son, who also owned the dealership, told me not to pay more than that when I started the process.

 

[70 sublime]

If I was the owner of the mystery car in question and a potential buyer started telling me I was over priced and need to sell it for $XXXX amount less the conversation would be over
The seller has picked the price they are not sad to see it sell or sad to have to keep it and continue enjoying it

If the car in question is at a flipper dealership kind of thing well that is a whole different ball game where they are fishing for a big dollar number because they payed a big price most likely to get it in the first place and are not selling it at a loss so they will just wait till the right person to comes along ( just got a big payday they sold the extra house ..... )

 

[Davefinan]

I don't think that a 383 car with its matching numbers engine is in the same league as a Sixpack or Hemi car with its matching numbers engine. The percentage is a lot higher if a Hemi car has its matching numbers engine versus a 383 car. On a 383 car maybe the percentage is 15 percent and on a Hemi car it could be 30 percent. I would also say it's more critical in the current market value wise that a Road Runner or Super Bee has its matching numbers engine versus a second generation Charger,Chargers sell for crazy money regardless if they have the matching numbers engine or not.

I would have to agree with the idea of a kind of scale percentage of value according to the engine.
You could argue that an original 318 matters very little. A 383 maybe 5-10%. 440 maybe 10-20% Six pack , hemi 25 and up depending on the car.

 

[kiwigtx]

I don't think that a 383 car with its matching numbers engine is in the same league as a Sixpack or Hemi car with its matching numbers engine. The percentage is a lot higher if a Hemi car has its matching numbers engine versus a 383 car. On a 383 car maybe the percentage is 15 percent and on a Hemi car it could be 30 percent. I would also say it's more critical in the current market value wise that a Road Runner or Super Bee has its matching numbers engine versus a second generation Charger,Chargers sell for crazy money regardless if they have the matching numbers engine or not.

A '69 Charger could have an LS motor and a Muncie 4-speed and still get more stupid dollars than a Matching Number 6-BBL Road Runner.

People are nuts for Chargers.

 

[YY1]

Bite your tongue, sir.

 

[DeltaV]

A '69 Charger could have an LS motor and a Muncie 4-speed and still get more stupid dollars than a Matching Number 6-BBL Road Runner.

People are nuts for Chargers.