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[Fran Blacker]

Playing sparky tonight in the shop.

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I'm not a electrian but why 15 amp outlet instead of 20 amp.
@kiwigtx

 

[bandit67]

15 amp recepticals are the cheapest and lots of folks just run the cheaper 14 gauge instead of 12 gauge wire. Most rec. never see a full 20 amps for long periods of time except for maybe commercial and industrial shops. For home shop use most folks are easy and the 15 amp rec. last for years. Use heavy drop cords and pull on them roughly, the cheap rec. break/bust easily.

 

[dadsbee]

Nothing wrong with 15's, but I make them all splits just like a kitchen counter.

 

[Charles Cook]

I'm not a electrian but why 15 amp outlet instead of 20 amp.
@kiwigtx

Not sure, I’m not an electrician either. My buddy that is an electrician told me that was all I needed for my use. Lol. I hope he was giving me good advice.

 

[Charles Cook]

15 amp recepticals are the cheapest and lots of folks just run the cheaper 14 gauge instead of 12 gauge wire. Most rec. never see a full 20 amps for long periods of time except for maybe commercial and industrial shops. For home shop use most folks are easy and the 15 amp rec. last for years. Use heavy drop cords and pull on them roughly, the cheap rec. break/bust easily.

All my wiring is 12/2. Around here the only thing people use the 14/2 for is single light fixtures. Residential that is. I’m definitely not an electrician but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once. Lol

 

[kiwigtx]

I'm not a electrian but why 15 amp outlet instead of 20 amp.
@kiwigtx

I'm not American, but I can tell you that the circuit rating should be matching the cable in that circuit. You can have a 20 Amp breaker on a circuit with 10 or 15 Amp sockets attached, provided that the cable is rated for the task - voltage drop and length of run are taken into consideration here.

The sockets should reflect the appliances that will be used in them - so if a 20 Amp socket is installed, it is usually because the customer has a 20 Amp requirement for something such as a welder or larger boiler etc. This is where I get messed up with converting Metric into Washing Machines..... a 15 Amp socket is probably cheaper as mentioned because it is the most common one sold.....and therefore most likely to be installed.

Please ....if you are playing Electrician, and you are not an Electrician.....be careful. That stuff bites for keeps if you are unfamiliar with what you're doing.

But hey.....what do I know....I'm an asshole apparently.

 

[kiwigtx]

Further to the above....as a shining example.... I can buy 16mm cables for less than half the price of the smaller 10mm equivalent - simply because a 10mm cable is seldom used, and is not in such high demand. Therefore when it is manufactured, the cost is higher for the shorter run.....basic economics 101.

 

[f569]

Well done!

 

[Charles Cook]

I'm not American, but I can tell you that the circuit rating should be matching the cable in that circuit. You can have a 20 Amp breaker on a circuit with 10 or 15 Amp sockets attached, provided that the cable is rated for the task - voltage drop and length of run are taken into consideration here.

The sockets should reflect the appliances that will be used in them - so if a 20 Amp socket is installed, it is usually because the customer has a 20 Amp requirement for something such as a welder or larger boiler etc. This is where I get messed up with converting Metric into Washing Machines..... a 15 Amp socket is probably cheaper as mentioned because it is the most common one sold.....and therefore most likely to be installed.

Please ....if you are playing Electrician, and you are not an Electrician.....be careful. That stuff bites for keeps if you are unfamiliar with what you're doing.

But hey.....what do I know....I'm an asshole apparently.

So, I’m okay with the 15 amp receptacles and the 12/2 wire? You guys have me worried now.

 

[dadsbee]

So, I’m okay with the 15 amp receptacles and the 12/2 wire? You guys have me worried now.

You're fine and the best part, it stops you from using those quick connect holes in them as they only take 14 gauge..

 

[HawkRod]

So, I’m okay with the 15 amp receptacles and the 12/2 wire? You guys have me worried now.

12/2 wire is used for a 20 amp breaker. If you have 20 Amp wire, you should have 20 amp receptacles. They look like this:

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[RemCharger]

Further to the above....as a shining example.... I can buy 16mm cables for less than half the price of the smaller 10mm equivalent - simply because a 10mm cable is seldom used, and is not in such high demand. Therefore when it is manufactured, the cost is higher for the shorter run.....basic economics 101.

Name the part number and supplier.

 

[Charles Cook]

You're fine and the best part, it stops you from using those quick connect holes in them as they only take 14 gauge..

I never speed wire. I agree. It’s common for me to use the 12/2 wire and 20 amp breaker so if I want to ad a 20 amp receptacle I can.

 

[kiwigtx]

Name the part number and supplier.

Local supplier - Nexans 16mm (and 10mm) Twin & earth.....I cannot disclose my pricing as it is sensitive information....you'll have to trust me on that.

 

[Charles Cook]

12/2 wire is used for a 20 amp breaker. If you have 20 Amp wire, you should have 20 amp receptacles. They look like this:

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I have some 20 amp receptacles that I was going to use on the battery charger plug and a mini fridge. That’s the heaviest things I have in this shop.

 

[dadsbee]

 

[Charles Cook]

@dadsbee, wayne you think I’m okay with the wiring. I am installing a couple of 20 amps in areas that may require a battery Charger or a mini fridge.

 

[Orig69]

 

[Orig69]

Noel Black 1967

 

[Orig69]

Tom Hanks taking the subway