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Teslas are literally death traps.

"Teslas are death traps"

Mind you, I am not a Tesla fan, but you could say the same thing about our old classic cars. Many have non collapsable steering columns so the driver may get impaled by the steering. Also, no crumple zones. Sure, our cars might look less damaged in a crash, but the crumple zones in modern cars sacrifice the car in order to save the people inside.

Having said all that, all cars should have a really obvious way to open doors to get passengers out in the event of an accident. Hidden door pulls aren't a good idea, IMHO.
 
I understand that this is an expression but have you ever thought of how redundant that statement is?
“It is what it is”.
Guess what? EVERYTHING is what it is.
A toaster is a toaster.
A rutabaga is a rutabaga.
A car is a car.

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"It is what it is" is a common phrase expressing acceptance of an unchangeable situation, signaling resignation, acknowledging reality, or sometimes deflecting further discussion, often used for frustrating or imperfect circumstances that must simply be dealt with as they are. It implies "this is the situation, and we have to accept it," whether it's a missed catch in sports, a bureaucratic problem, or life's imperfections.

Thanks. For those that missed it, in my first sentence, I wrote that I understand that it is an expression. There is no confusion on my part about that.
My point, one that seems to have been missed by the critics, is that in literal terms, the wording of the phrase is pointless and redundant. In literal terms, it is like saying something that everyone already knows.
Everything that ever existed..... is what it is.... so why even use a phrase like this?
Oh, and Tesla cars are ugly. The "trucks" are even more so.
 
Having said all that, all cars should have a really obvious way to open doors to get passengers out in the event of an accident. Hidden door pulls aren't a good idea, IMHO.
Obviously the owner of a vehicle should at least know basic stuff about it like where the hidden door pulls are but I 100% agree they are a bad idea as any other driver or passenger might not know where they are and that is dangerous.
 
I understand that this is an expression but have you ever thought of how redundant that statement is?
“It is what it is”.
Guess what? EVERYTHING is what it is.
A toaster is a toaster.
A rutabaga is a rutabaga.
A car is a car.
Everything is either a potato, or not a potato.
 
Thanks. For those that missed it, in my first sentence, I wrote that I understand that it is an expression. There is no confusion on my part about that.
My point, one that seems to have been missed by the critics, is that in literal terms, the wording of the phrase is pointless and redundant. In literal terms, it is like saying something that everyone already knows.
Everything that ever existed..... is what it is.... so why even use a phrase like this?
Oh, and Tesla cars are ugly. The "trucks" are even more so.
We just watched Lonesome Dove the last few nights.

Kern reminds me of Pea eye talking to Gus about chasing the buffalo haha.
 
A) Read the friggin owner's manual to identify the manual door pulls! It was even mentioned that the doors have manual pulls and it would behoove people to know where they are.
B) Young, inexperienced kids driving an exotic vehicle to look cool and not familiar with vehicle features.
C) Don't drink & drive. At least the driver was more than 2x over the legal limit to drive.

When I bought my 2016 Ram, I read the manual front to back. How many people know where the manual pull is to disconnect the transmission to allow the truck to be towed. I also read the manual to my 2006 Toyota Tundra (my first new vehicle). For my '95 and '99 trucks, not so much as I worked in a shop and delt with vehicles like them. Everything else I have ever owned was younger that '79...
I always enjoy a good “behoove”
 
The electric door openers are a stupid design all for the purpose of pushing a button to get out instead of pulling a lever.

Caveat emptor.

If the spoiled rich kids had been in a 1995 Suburban they all would have just stumbled out into the street after the crash to sit on the curb and the cops would have hauled them home to the parents and dealt with the consequences.
Rich people spent too much money on a stupid design and now this happened. Our society likes to blame some body else for everything. No one forced anyone to go buy a stupid cyber truck, it sure isn;t tesla's fault that people bought the stupid design. This isn't like the exploding Ford Pintos, where people should have a reasonable expectation of safety on a basic design. This is something so obvious you can't even get into the thing to test drive it on the lot without knowing how it works and what the ramifications are because you have to open the door.

It is a stupid design. Is it a death trap? Maybe so, but it is a self evident one that everyone signing on the line knows about when they get it. If they wanted a push button door for six figures that is their decision to make. Lawsuits about it are way out of line. I am sick of paying for(one way or another) protecting the idiots of this world from themselves.

Because of how things are now, you always have to take things to an extreme to see if it holds up. For example, motorcycles have no crash ratings to speak of. So if a drugged up kid hits a tree, should the parents sue the motorcycle manufacturer? Of course not. It is part of the design that it is open air riding. If you are worried about safety, don;t buy one, simple as that. Anything else in between ends up infringing on someone's ability to get what they want. That can be applied on all sorts of things. This door handle cybertruck BS is no different. You want a push button door? Fine, go ahead. Don;t cry when you fly off the motorcycle because it didn't have seat belts, don't cry when your electronic push buttons prevented the door from opening for someone that was trying to help because the buttons quit working after the crash. You knew what you signed up for, and if you didn;t, lesson learned. Expecting the world to pay for all your lessons for you is some real entitled BS.
 
The electric door openers are a stupid design all for the purpose of pushing a button to get out instead of pulling a lever.

Caveat emptor.

If the spoiled rich kids had been in a 1995 Suburban they all would have just stumbled out into the street after the crash to sit on the curb and the cops would have hauled them home to the parents and dealt with the consequences.
Rich people spent too much money on a stupid design and now this happened. Our society likes to blame some body else for everything. No one forced anyone to go buy a stupid cyber truck, it sure isn;t tesla's fault that people bought the stupid design. This isn't like the exploding Ford Pintos, where people should have a reasonable expectation of safety on a basic design. This is something so obvious you can't even get into the thing to test drive it on the lot without knowing how it works and what the ramifications are because you have to open the door.

It is a stupid design. Is it a death trap? Maybe so, but it is a self evident one that everyone signing on the line knows about when they get it. If they wanted a push button door for six figures that is their decision to make. Lawsuits about it are way out of line. I am sick of paying for(one way or another) protecting the idiots of this world from themselves.

Because of how things are now, you always have to take things to an extreme to see if it holds up. For example, motorcycles have no crash ratings to speak of. So if a drugged up kid hits a tree, should the parents sue the motorcycle manufacturer? Of course not. It is part of the design that it is open air riding. If you are worried about safety, don;t buy one, simple as that. Anything else in between ends up infringing on someone's ability to get what they want. That can be applied on all sorts of things. This door handle cybertruck BS is no different. You want a push button door? Fine, go ahead. Don;t cry when you fly off the motorcycle because it didn't have seat belts, don't cry when your electronic push buttons prevented the door from opening for someone that was trying to help because the buttons quit working after the crash. You knew what you signed up for, and if you didn;t, lesson learned. Expecting the world to pay for all your lessons for you is some real entitled BS.
Not every victim is the person who made the choice and 'signed on the line'. Sometimes it's a passenger who didn't have input into buying the car.
 
We rode in a Tesla Uber in New Orleans. Car kept slowing down. Linda thought door handle was the power window switch…
 
The car is what it is, you either like them or you don't. Next time you fill up your work car to go from A to B think about it. My son is not into classic cars like me and he hasn't been to a gas station in 4 years

The car has no required maintenance except tire rotation. If the car requires a software update its done in his garage at night while he sleeps.

For me I enjoy my classic cars too much.
I saw first hand this week the bullschit my step son and his girlfriend went through essentially planning their whole days around charging the car,I would rather throw a few bucks in the tank as needed everyday,all day! The low maintenance claims are erased quickly when the car needs a 25 grand battery replacement!
 
Who is going to know as a rear seat passenger in a Tesla,that in the event of an accident that causes the doors to stay locked,that you must use your bare hands to rip the speakers out of the door to find the mechanical door pull handles located behind the speakers! My step son and his girlfriend had no idea about this until I told them about this thread on here.
 
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