Which Hydraulic Roller Lifters?

[dvw]

So you also use bushed roller rockers?

No. The load cycle on a rocker is different. Radial pivot vs up/down pounding. At worst the rocker needles will brinell the shaft. Never seen a failure in mine. Have worn a few shafts that caused zero damage to the needle bearings.
Doug

 

[Don Frelier]

Out of my budget also but…..

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I'm 20 minutes from canandaigua, never heard of marine kinetics?

 

[70ChargerRT]

I'm 20 minutes from canandaigua, never heard of marine kinetics?

The Legendary Bob Madera owns it. Any true engine builder knows who Bob is. He also plays a role in Johnson Lifters.

 

[Nxcoupe]

No, I think we're a little off topic because BAM only does solid roller lifters not hydraulic rollers. Solid roller lifters w bushing are made by several companies now. Isky is the only one that sells hydraulic roller lifter(HRX) which has a bushing and not needles..but only for a .842 lifter not a mopar. Johnson makes the HRX for ISKY. I wish they made a HRX for a bb mopar.

Whenever crane hydraulic rollers has been mentioned in above posts with success that is similiar to what Gatorman sells. Except Gatorman has some oversea's (chinese) parts in them now.

If the cam is smaller I would consider comp cams evolutions. The small bore of the lifter cartridge limits it as it won't like rpms or big spring that a larger cam would need. The HR lifters we ran were from Comp, still going but never been overly impressed, the evolutions were not out at that time yet. I think the evolutions are a good fit for milder builds.

Johnsons I believe to be the best we can get for BB mopars at the moment. They are also pricey. Out of our budget..so take it FWIW.

The last 3 we switched to hybrids. HR cams w solid roller lifters with pin oiling. We zero lash them. Getting quite a few miles on them now. My favorite one was from Tim at bullet.

Tim is who will take my custom order as well and I'll get their intermediate drive gear as well.

Thanks for the info. Seems like a lot of opinions with no clear choice. Have to look around, especially at the comp ones since my cam will be .500 lift and less than 220 @ .050

 

[Curiousyellow71]

Tim is who will take my custom order as well and I'll get their intermediate drive gear as well.

Thanks for the info. Seems like a lot of opinions with no clear choice. Have to look around, especially at the comp ones since my cam will be .500 lift and less than 220 @ .050

I wouldn't be real worried on the lifter choices for a cam of that size. The comp evolutions have a oil hole to lubricate the roller w oil pressure and the replaceable cartridge, good features for the extra $200. The cheapest Morel just use splash lubrication for the roller like the old Comp HR lifters. Not sure what Gatorman does because Its not visually obvious.

Yep, lots of opinions!

 

[Nxcoupe]

I wouldn't be real worried on the lifter choices for a cam of that size. The comp evolutions have a oil hole to lubricate the roller w oil pressure and the replaceable cartridge, good features for the extra $200. The cheapest Morel just use splash lubrication for the roller like the old Comp HR lifters. Not sure what Gatorman does because Its not visually obvious.

Yep, lots of opinions!

I think the comp evolutions are what I'm going with.

 

[Geoff 2]

Yes, I use bushed Isky lifters & beehive springs. About 15 yrs now, driven weekly. Drilled oil passage to rollers in roller brg lifter is a sales gimmick. It is an engineering fact that ball & roller brgs survive on minimal oiling. Think of sealed rear wheel brgs, front wheel brgs, U joints, pilot brg in crank for man trans, etc.

 

[496 polara]

I have the Comp Evolution in mine. Only a couple of hundred miles in and there is some noise to them. Had to tighten up the lash to where it is supposed to be and it quite down some. I doubt my engine will ever see north of 6000rpm.