Windshield installation 1966-70 B body

[Coelacanth]

dadsbee, your windshield install looks great. One thing I noticed with my windshield replacement, done by my body man, the stainless trim at the bottom driver side corner isn't pressed down flush, I can see a space through there. All new trim clips were provided for the install. What could one do to prevent water getting in that corner? I can update later with a close-up pic.

 

[Kern Dog]

We were careful to protect the paint. The car has a vinyl top so the A pillars and roof were already protected.

We bought tape at an auto body and paint supply store.

That tape sure is more expensive than the blue rolls you get at Home Depot.

Here is another thing….
We all are aging and with that, our eyes don’t always work as well as they did before. We started with the car in the shop with the sunlight behind us. I was having trouble focusing on the gasket because the sun in the background made me want to squint.
We turned the car around to face the sun and that really helped us see….we still couldn’t get it done but at least we could see better.

 

[Kern Dog]

dadsbee, your windshield install looks great. One thing I noticed with my windshield replacement, done by my body man, the stainless trim at the bottom driver side corner isn't pressed down flush, I can see a space through there. All new trim clips were provided for the install. What could one do to prevent water getting in that corner? I can update later with a close-up pic.

The outer edges of that bottom piece of stainless trim are supposed to have thin retention straps that attach to the body inside the door jamb.
I didn’t know about these until a few days ago when Rich mentioned it. My red car does not have them but Jigsaw does. I’ll snap a couple pictures when I’m back home.

 

[Kern Dog]

Here we go.
I call this car “Jigsaw” since it was parted out then put back together with parts from
Numerous sources.

The edges lay down tight.

Door open…

Look close.

My red car (Ginger) probably had them but they must have been lost when I pulled the trim to paint the car 20+ years ago. Those little retention brackets could probably be made by hand with a little work but it would help to have one good one to look at to make others.
Cheers.

 

[Coelacanth]

Interesting, thanks. I'll take a close look when I get home. I never actually paid attention to that.

 

[Kern Dog]

Me neither. When Rich mentioned it, I didn’t even remember that they were there. The corners on the red car lay down nicely. If they had bent up, I would have probably researched this long ago.

 

[Outlawd]

The outer edges of that bottom piece of stainless trim are supposed to have thin retention straps that attach to the body inside the door jamb.

Just when I thought I knew everything about mopars you throw this out there....just proves no matter what age you are, you never stop learning!

 

[Coelacanth]

Well, though it's kind of hard to see, my driver side is clearly missing that piece:

This shows how much space there is; it's pretty firm there too, I can't really press it down too much; excuse the very dusty car:

And the passenger side is also missing that piece, but is seated much more firmly with just a little gap:

So the question is, should I worry about that space? I would rather not have water pool up in there. What is recommended to fill the gap?

 

[dadsbee]

Recommendation.... buy the two missing retainer clips and the two screws!

 

[Coelacanth]

I provided the full front & rear window trim clip sets to my body man. It's odd that he didn't install some...

 

[dadsbee]

I provided the full front & rear window trim clip sets to my body man. It's odd that he didn't install some...

Did ya miss the pictures KD gave you to show the retainers??!! Did you give your body man those "clips". If so go get them.. if not buy a pair. Post a WTB or just buy new ones. They are reproduced. Windshield Lower Seal Retainers 1968-70 B-Body, Moldings Windshield, 132-6002242-3 Reproduction, NOS and Used Mopar Muscle Car Parts

 

[Coelacanth]

Did ya miss the pictures KD gave you to show the retainers??!! Did you give your body man those "clips". If so go get them.. if not buy a pair. Post a WTB or just buy new ones. They are reproduced. Windshield Lower Seal Retainers 1968-70 B-Body, Moldings Windshield, 132-6002242-3 Reproduction, NOS and Used Mopar Muscle Car Parts

Did you miss my posts #25 and #28? Thanks but what's with the attitude?

 

[Kern Dog]

Recommendation.... buy the two missing retainer clips and the two screws!

If you can get them, I agree that they should be used but for the record.....I've been driving this car around without them since 2002.

 

[Kern Dog]

Here are some pictures I pulled from Wayne's glass installation in his Super Bee:

 

[Kern Dog]

More....

I had to do this....have sticks on both sides to keep the gasket from rolling under.

Wayne installed from the bottom up instead of the factory way of top down. His way makes more sense to me than what the manual states.

 

[dadsbee]

HEY... those pictures are copywrite !!!!

 

[440 4 speed]

W/s glass install.
We have had very good installers. Got used to no leaks. Then in 2006 got a Metro gasket and PPG w/s. Got into a heavy downpour in Iowa. Left foot actually got wet. Came back and the Glass guy got it corrected. He was an old timer. This time I measured the thickness Of the original w/s and the new PPG. PPG was thinner.
I saw AMD was getting w/s made. I called and they measured their’s. It was thicker than PPG. I decided it would be cost prohibitive to have it shipped here.
I had ordered a Precision gasket. So I had another glass shop install the w/s and gasket, they have done I can’t imagine how many old cars, trucks etc.

 

[Kern Dog]

It seems sensible that glass that is thinner would not seal up as well in the rubber channel. I wish that I knew where the leak starts in my own car. Just like with roof leaks in a building, water can come in at one point and travel laterally then drip a ways away from where it came in. I’m going on a road trip next week but after that, I might dig into where my leaks come in.

 

[Some Car Guy]

I have to do a job like this at some point. I’ll have to take more time to read each post here. Things I’ve taken note of

Pilkington is supposed to be a bit thin. Licensed repop glass is supposed to be thicker, but has a wavy look.

Detroit technologies sells a gasket they say is softer than others on the market. Implies it will seal better.

 

[Kern Dog]

After the road trip next week, I want to look closer at where water is coming in with my car. The wiper pivots are new, the windshield and gasket were new as of a few years ago.
I've wondered if water is coming in through here:

...and then maybe leaking through the vents under the dash. I could put masking tape over it before dousing the area with a hose. I'm not sure how I will proceed. I should take the seats out so I can lie on the floor with the doors closed and look up while the wife runs the hose.