So, reading this thread had brought me to a conclusion. We need to get guns off the streets. We need gun laws to prevent these guns from walking around and doing all this harm. A whole buncha new gun laws, the more the merrier. And, now, guns stealing cars just to go around and shoot at people. I didn't know guns knew the value of catalytic converters, and now our cars are not safe either. And we need judges to punish the guns that are caught, and keep those guns behind bars. Yeah those guns have gotten way out of hand, I don't know if those gun rehabilitation programs really work. And when you teach guns that law enforcement is the enemy, and allow guns total disregard for humans, those guns will act they way they do.