The Camaro is getting cancelled again?

[Kern Dog]

What ???

https://www.motor1.com/news/356610/chevy-camaro-discontinue-2023/

 

[66ChargerHI-PO]

So what it's not a Mopar, who cares!

Unfortunately though that's how it is with all the car makers and dealers now, they just want SUV's and trucks. No more cars. I hear Chrysler is just going to make Jeeps and trucks.

 

[JB400]

Chevy's whole lineup is a disappointment. Time to ask the lady CEO to step down and turn their mainstream brand a complete 180

 

[Kern Dog]

The loss of the Camaro line is not good for us as Mopar car lovers. Competition is good for consumers. If the Camaro goes away again, it does not necessarily mean that there will be MORE Challenger buyers.

 

[DeltaV]

What ???

https://www.motor1.com/news/356610/chevy-camaro-discontinue-2023/

Take a look at the Big 3 stock price per share if you want to be shocked. At closing time today USD:
GM: $37.68 on NYSE
FCA: $13.77 on NYSE (junk bond territory?)
Ford: $9.85 on NYSE (junk bond territory)

Sources:
https://markets.businessinsider.com/stocks/gm-stock

https://markets.businessinsider.com/stocks/fiat_chrysler-stock

https://markets.businessinsider.com/stocks/f-stock

 

[Dennis H]

Chevy missed the mark with the Camaro and gave in to the trendy Transformer look roofline. Lacks the Panache of the Challenger. GM should consider getting rid of Buick too.
Bunch of generic looking **** almost as bad as 1985.

 

[Kern Dog]

Chevy missed the mark with the Camaro and gave in to the trendy Transformer look roofline.

I had a 73, a 76, a 78 and an 85 Camaro. I liked them. The '76 that I had was set up for really good handling. The redesign in '82 was not my favorite. The '93 was even worse. I understand that a design will evolve over the years but when it completely loses it's spirit, the name on the car seems more about marketing than it does seem about selling a familiar feel or image.
The 2010 model really could have been a winner. I actually liked the car from the front end to the quarters. To me, they made the *** end too stubby, too short. From the rear it looked as if the car had been rear ended by a big rig. I have never sat in one but I understand them to be cramped and hard to see out of. I hate small cars and I hate feeling cramped. Blind spots are no fun either. Their redesign a few years back took a decent front end and sharpened all the edges, almost as if they went totally opposite of the 80s cars where they all adopted a Jellybean shape.
This is all just a rumor as of now. Some shuffling or reorganization may happen and give the model new life. The Challenger was slated for a redesign for 2018 and that did not happen.

 

[DeltaV]

One of the local Cheby dealers here has a couple of Camaro SS1 coupes for $51k, a convertible for $55k, and a Corvette for $59k. That would be an easy choice if I was a Chevy guy that was ready to throw away some money.

Ford Mustang GTs are heavily discounted here (Savannah/Hilton Head)...you can get one for around $33k/$34k.

The Dodge dealers aren't dealing right now on the multitudes of Challenger models that are available. You probably already know the pricing.

 

[GetX'd]

I hate to admit it but I have a nephew that was a mustang nut then transitioned to Camaro. I keep telling him the Hellcat is the answer but he says they’re too heavy?? He doesn’t want listen to my Mopar rhetoric so I just sent him this article. Might be changing his allegiance if this all goes thru.....

 

[Photon440]

Take a look at the Big 3 stock price per share if you want to be shocked. At closing time today USD:
GM: $37.68 on NYSE
FCA: $13.77 on NYSE (junk bond territory?)
Ford: $9.85 on NYSE (junk bond territory)

Sources:
https://markets.businessinsider.com/stocks/gm-stock

https://markets.businessinsider.com/stocks/fiat_chrysler-stock

https://markets.businessinsider.com/stocks/f-stock

Everything has ups and downs. FCA may be $13.77 but their market cap is over $27 Billion. Way higher than it was three or four years ago.

 

[Big Bad Dad]

So what it's not a Mopar, who cares!

Unfortunately though that's how it is with all the car makers and dealers now, they just want SUV's and trucks. No more cars. I hear Chrysler is just going to make Jeeps and trucks.

So, I guess the Dodge name will be going the way of Plymouth? And no car with a Chrysler name on it? And I NEVER understood why they renamed the trucks and took the Dodge name off of them. As a long time Mopar fan,I would like a new truck, but I don't have any feeling of connection to the renamed Rams. I probably lean toward Ford now.....

 

[Richard Cranium]

I had a 73, a 76, a 78 and an 85 Camaro. I liked them.

Here's a young Kern Dog back when he was known as Kern Mullet.....

 

[Andew Sury]

I've had a few myself, back before my own head of hair mutinized. From my first legal car, a 76 stripper, to my last, an 18 ZL1 convertible.
I don't see the Camayro going anywhere.
They are still selling around 50,000 a year.

 

[Andew Sury]

And when you build something like this in 2002, you needed to take a break for a few years.

 

[BeeKool]

The loss of the Camaro line is not good for us as Mopar car lovers. Competition is good for consumers. If the Camaro goes away again, it does not necessarily mean that there will be MORE Challenger buyers.

You may be right.
However, here is an analogy. The Chebby Colorado is successful, largely due to the lack of competition from the Dakota which was a much superior vehicle. Successful enough that Ford has decided to grab a share of that market by reviving the Ranger. Too bad the truck manufacturer formerly known as Dodge wont due the same.

 

[Andew Sury]

They did, in the form of a $40k Jeep pickup.

 

[moparedtn]

So, I guess the Dodge name will be going the way of Plymouth? And no car with a Chrysler name on it? And I NEVER understood why they renamed the trucks and took the Dodge name off of them. As a long time Mopar fan,I would like a new truck, but I don't have any feeling of connection to the renamed Rams. I probably lean toward Ford now.....

If Ford currently made one single gas engine in their pickups that was reliable, you might have a point...
If Ford didn't make a large portion of their pickup bodies entirely out of aluminum, you might have a point...
If Dodge, err Ram wasn't making the best pickup today, you might have a point.

 

[moparedtn]

You may be right.
However, here is an analogy. The Chebby Colorado is successful, largely due to the lack of competition from the Dakota which was a much superior vehicle. Successful enough that Ford has decided to grab a share of that market by reviving the Ranger. Too bad the truck manufacturer formerly known as Dodge wont due the same.

It's too bad that all the manufacturers totally abandoned the compact pickup market.
What killed the Dakota, namely a "compact" pickup that kept growing in size and price to the point where it made more sense to just buy the full-sized ones, is apparently lost on the Ford people.
The new Ranger is too big, WAY too expensive and too underpowered for its' size - sort of what happened with the new Jeep pickup, too.
Manufacturers have abandoned the economical, truly compact pickup market in favor of SUV's with little beds tacked on.

Oh, and while I'm busy giving opinions nobody asked for , put me down as another who absolutely hated the late-model Camaro "Transformers" styling. You sit in one of those and outward visibility is absolutely atrocious, to the point of being downright dangerous, especially to the sides and rear.
Feels like a coffin with wheels...
I've never liked the "heartbeat" of the modern iteration of the Chevy V8, either. The louder people make 'em, the more they sound like *** to me - more an industrial engine sound than anything "performance auto". There's just something to the cadence of that engine that annoys me.
I actually like the beat of the modern hemi's as well as some of the Ford stuff (that flat plane crank sounds MENTAL at higher RPM's).

 

[Darter6]

Oh my goodness,,what will the Pro Camaro (Formally known as Pro Stock) do?? Will it be the end of NHRA's boring class ?

 

[slepr1]

I love my Camaro. Got a Hennessey upgrade in 2011. The mustang was also mine for a month (bought at auction to flip). The 71 Demon is a friends.