Tubes, tubless and tube tops

Meep-Meep · Jun 1, 2010

OK, no tube tops, but now that I have your attention :rolling:

Any of you guys ever put a tube in a modern radial? I took a nail in the side wall of one of my General XP 2000's and a replacement is no where to be found because it's an old tire (2003 vintage) and of course no one will patch the hole. The real pisser is the tires are basically new with maybe 1000 miles on them :mad:

The tire stores won't touch it because of the obvious liability, but I'm wondering if it's one of those CYA things. I'd like the straight scoop from someone who knows!

Or does anyone here have an NOS 235 70 15 XP 2000?

Thanks.

iraqivet01 · Jun 1, 2010

Not a good idea according to what I found.

http://autopedia.com/APBB/Forum1/HTML/001069.html

69 Runner · Jun 2, 2010

Didn't read the whole thing, but what I read was interesting.

That said, I think there are special tubes made for use with radial tires, but are expensive.

khryslerkid · Jun 2, 2010

Not a good idea either

wannadrag · Jun 2, 2010

Ive done it and put 40,000 milea on the that tire with no issues.

godfatherofchry · Jun 2, 2010

wannadrag said:
Ive done it and put 40,000 milea on the that tire with no issues.

X2 they make tubes for that tire.and I would patch it to keep dirt out.

74sundance · Jun 2, 2010

godfatherofchry said:
X2 they make tubes for that tire.and I would patch it to keep dirt out.

I've had 2 tire side walls fixed it cost $25.00can where I go,never had any problems.But I guess not many shops do it any more.

Doubleclutch · Jun 3, 2013

My local gas station told me its an insurance issue.

called triple A last year. The driver had the plug and offered it for $20. cash. I'm sure it was a personal sideline. I took it with a radial and have no problems. But it was the tread not sidewall. Sidewall has much more flexing. If you plug, I would add the tube.

sublimegtx · Jun 3, 2013

ok I had to go there...

5wndwcpe · Jun 3, 2013

OK, no tube tops

I'm glad that was rectified.

Photon440 · Jun 3, 2013

I have had a tube installed because of sidewall damage, no problems. My son works at a tire shop, and it gets done. There are things to watch out for though:

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/tires/ti104.htm

Cranky · Jun 3, 2013

I've done several street radials over the years and use a patch made for radials and depending how large the puncture was depends on if it gets a tube or not. One time I used a small patch then laid a larger patch over it and then stuck in a tube. Ran that one for nearly 5 years! And I never sanded the inside of any tubeless tires for tubes....

WileERobby · Jun 3, 2013

sublimegtx said:
ok I had to go there...View attachment 120451

.... uhhh... what was the question ?

bm02tj · Jun 3, 2013

some industrial tire shops will install a boot in the side wall
if you take the tire in unmounted and if they ask it is for off road use then run on the rear of the car
if you have a tire fail the rear is better place to have one fail

tubes work but heat up faster so long trips could be a problem

Cranky · Jun 4, 2013

bm02tj said:
some industrial tire shops will install a boot in the side wall
if you take the tire in unmounted and if they ask it is for off road use then run on the rear of the car
if you have a tire fail the rear is better place to have one fail

tubes work but heat up faster so long trips could be a problem

Not so sure if having a failure on the rear is better or not. I've had both happen and neither was very much fun but the one that went on the rear was worse. The one that happened on the rear went flat kinda quick on a curve and was only doing 45 and the car about spun out but the one that happened on the front blew out on the freeway doing 60. The car made a move towards the other lane but it was easy to control to a stop.

67 coronet · Jun 4, 2013

i have been in the tire industry for 20 plus years and you can patch/plug a sidewall in a radial to hold air.however i would only keep it as a spare.once the side wall integrity is compromised the radial tire has a good chance to explode under heat or heavy use.i know my classic car is not worth risking to save a bit of money.buy a new tire,who cares if it looks a little different.
Cranky is correct.all modern testing shows you should put compromised tires(if you have to run them)on the front.a blow out in the front is much easyer to control then one in the rear.all current dot testing shows this extensively.as a major tire distibutor we are required to put new tires on the rear first,unless requested to do otherwise by the vehicle owner.

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