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I had a suggestion.
1969 T7 Saddle Bronze Metallic Paint
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451Mopar
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Check what the required primer/sealer color is supposed to be. With the Summit Racing Bronze single stage paint, they want that over a black primer/sealer
Not at the 2 NAPA stores here in my area.
I went to a distributor that a guy at the Wesco store told me of. The girl there took my paint info
and said she would call to find out if there was a mix formula for the omni. She said sometimes they don't release it if it's not profitable.
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Like I pm'd you, they won't have a formula because its too old and a mopar.
Maybe a common ford mustang color, or gm.
Even if they had a formula, then we're back to using omni (which I wouldn't), for the bottom or inside which...would suffice.
But not the engine bay, as it won't match the correct color or metallic effect of tge outside
The bottom shouldn't be full color anyway.
I have a single and a base formula for the ford 5T color. I only have a base forumla for the saddle bronze.
But I could look the compostion of the ford formulas and apply it to make a single stage saddle bronze.
Maybe a common ford mustang color, or gm.
Even if they had a formula, then we're back to using omni (which I wouldn't), for the bottom or inside which...would suffice.
But not the engine bay, as it won't match the correct color or metallic effect of tge outside
The bottom shouldn't be full color anyway.
I have a single and a base formula for the ford 5T color. I only have a base forumla for the saddle bronze.
But I could look the compostion of the ford formulas and apply it to make a single stage saddle bronze.
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they may not have actual formulas for the exact application; but.......
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I think I mentioned the universal color map to you in my PM also.
I also said if the color is wrong you will hate it forever.
I have repainted peoples cars because the shade and metallic was off.
I also said if the color is wrong you will hate it forever.
I have repainted peoples cars because the shade and metallic was off.
mopar4don
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So it looks like in July 2023 I paid 278.88 for
1 gal lacquer thinner,
1 gal grease and wax remover,
a package of tack cloths,
1 gal of PPG Shop Line JAUJBA/GL 2032 dk bronz poly (not sure what the JBA/GL is??? maybe the hardener and reducer?)
These were purchased from our local PPG paint supplier, Painters Supply and Equipment Company
Also here is a link to some paint info on T7 (there is a lot more info out there)
I used paint for the bottom of the car, under the hood and inside the car.
My plan is to use base coat clear coat for the exterior by color matching this Shopline single stage.
Because the BC/CC and single stage do not match.
If you have any questions let me know
1 gal lacquer thinner,
1 gal grease and wax remover,
a package of tack cloths,
1 gal of PPG Shop Line JAUJBA/GL 2032 dk bronz poly (not sure what the JBA/GL is??? maybe the hardener and reducer?)
These were purchased from our local PPG paint supplier, Painters Supply and Equipment Company
Also here is a link to some paint info on T7 (there is a lot more info out there)
I used paint for the bottom of the car, under the hood and inside the car.
My plan is to use base coat clear coat for the exterior by color matching this Shopline single stage.
Because the BC/CC and single stage do not match.
If you have any questions let me know
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hunt2elk
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I have used all PPG paint for my last couple of cars. Don mentioned that single stage and their 2 stage are not exact matches, and is that correct. While I have not used their single stage, I do use the Shopline for inside the cabin and the bottom of the cars. It is alot cheaper than Deltron, but the Deltron is a much more vibrant color than Shopline.
mopar4don
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Joel, just to clarify, you said: "While I have not used their single stage, I do use the Shopline for inside the cabin and the bottom of the car"
What type of Shopline did you use on the bottom and inside the cabin?
I am not a painter, and to me the terminology can be confusing, but yes Deltron base coat/ clear coat (BC/CC or 2 stage) is what I believe my painter friend recommended for the outside of the car. It is a LOT more expensive, but a much higher quality!
And from what I understand PPG Omni, and PPG Shopline are basically the same, just some suppliers will only carry one or the other.
and If I am wrong... someone please correct me!
What type of Shopline did you use on the bottom and inside the cabin?
I am not a painter, and to me the terminology can be confusing, but yes Deltron base coat/ clear coat (BC/CC or 2 stage) is what I believe my painter friend recommended for the outside of the car. It is a LOT more expensive, but a much higher quality!
And from what I understand PPG Omni, and PPG Shopline are basically the same, just some suppliers will only carry one or the other.
and If I am wrong... someone please correct me!
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the paint supplier had it..... an entire book
I guess Wanda didn't have 67 color formulas, it was a while ago; but matching the original paint was pretty easy..... they obviously have a formula for every color on the cards
That's the main problem I'm having. No one in the state sells any of those brands that I know of, therefor they don't mix the color.
If I could get the shop line mixed from an online site and shipped ,I would go that route.
I called one of there location and they gave me the number of there main mixing location. He said he thinks he can do it so I sent him your pictures and paint info.What if you called one of the Painters locations and ask if they would ship you the paint?
Here is a link to there locations
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psegroup.com
Will see
Thank you
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Hello, per our phone conversation.
I went and checked with my higher up and unfortunately I cannot ship out paint. I apologize.
John-Luke Morlan
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Has any one had luck with this line?
This would only go on the bottom, inside ,trunk areas
The reviews are not bad and they say it's far better than the Omni line.
And it loos like it would be easy to order in T7
Restoration Shop (AE) Acrylic Enamel Paint System
AE is a Professional Easy-To-Use Single-Stage High Gloss Paint Coating System that is Designed for Overall Automotive Refinishing but is also used as a Fleet and Industrial Equipment Coating. AE is an easy to spray fast-drying topcoat system that provides a long-lasting and very high gloss finish result. AE is a very durable, chemical and solvent resistant coating that also resists chipping, cracking, and UV ray fading.
This would only go on the bottom, inside ,trunk areas
The reviews are not bad and they say it's far better than the Omni line.
And it loos like it would be easy to order in T7
Restoration Shop (AE) Acrylic Enamel Paint System
AE is a Professional Easy-To-Use Single-Stage High Gloss Paint Coating System that is Designed for Overall Automotive Refinishing but is also used as a Fleet and Industrial Equipment Coating. AE is an easy to spray fast-drying topcoat system that provides a long-lasting and very high gloss finish result. AE is a very durable, chemical and solvent resistant coating that also resists chipping, cracking, and UV ray fading.
hunt2elk
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Shopline JBP base/clear for bottom and inside of car. Deltron for the exterior. This was T5 copper for my Bee, and I did the same with B5 blue on my Runner. Although they are the same codes, they definitely don't match when laid side by side.
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To all those following along, I have been trying to help ole jimbo out with new, not used Glasurit base coat and work up some single for inside.
Everything I told him in my pm, has been born out as true.
What should I do?
I know nothing.
It's too far to go through Seattle any way.
Everything I told him in my pm, has been born out as true.
What should I do?
I know nothing.
It's too far to go through Seattle any way.
I apricate any help that I get but as you know in WA state Wesco is the only game in town so I have to go online for the T7 color. Most every brand on this post
cannot be bought locally. I went to a place in Auburn called Single Source, They took my info but basically if there is not a profit in a color they don't develop a mix formula in the old years.
Finding a formula of another car line is not working out.
There was an offer to buy and ship from another state that I'm keeping in mind.
This restoration shop sells the T7 in single stage and BC/CC in acrylic and urethane so it looks like when the outside get done it should match??
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