67 CHARGER HEADLAMP MOTOR CONVERSION QUESTION.

[2fast4u8]

IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE ONE MOTOR TO ROTATE THE HEADLAMP DOORS TOGETHER (LIKE THE 1970 CHARGER) INSTEAD OF 2 INDIVIDUAL MOTORS? SEEN SOME CONVERSIONS ON YOU TUBE BUT THE DON'T GO INTO DETAIL.

ANYONE ACTUALLY DONE THIS? KNOW HOW TO DO THIS?

 

[twecomm]

Been a while but I have seen where some folks have done this. Think it was on Youtube as you say. Are your motors not working ?

 

[RemCharger]

The motor on a 70 goes 90° and a 67 is 180°. Would that be a problem, I don't know.

 

[F4R/T]

Check with Topher McGuiness the wiper motor man that also does headlamp motors.

 

[Doorkicker]

yes. it is possible. it requires a few things, such as fabricating a motor mount to handle the housing torque, a geared down motor (I saw one guy use a deer feeder motor with a gear), and you'll need to make some form of joint (rag joint) as not to tear up the lamp. It's not simple, but can be done.

 

[twecomm]

Think you would be way ahead of the game to just get your motors running right keep it stock.

 

[Encswsm]

Topher McGuiness Is the man. He rebuilt mine for a nominal fee and has all of the other electrical components to make your lights work perfectly. Here's his site Home

 

[RedBeard]

I have seen a guy use this motor on Amazon and design a shaft to each bucket:

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Double-Shaft-Torque-Reduction/dp/B078VSBK69/ref=sr_1_7?crid=I25MKBGZ7OBL&dchild=1&keywords=uxcell+double+shaft+worm+gear&qid=1609374136&sprefix=uxcell+double+shaft+,aps,241&sr=8-7&th=1


Here is his video:

 

[chrger1967]

I have seen a guy use this motor on Amazon and design a shaft to each bucket:

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Double-Shaft-Torque-Reduction/dp/B078VSBK69/ref=sr_1_7?crid=I25MKBGZ7OBL&dchild=1&keywords=uxcell+double+shaft+worm+gear&qid=1609374136&sprefix=uxcell+double+shaft+,aps,241&sr=8-7&th=1


Here is his video:

This guy should sell his idea.

 

[67 Mopar]

I've seen it done by others, swapping out the old for newer more efficient single and dual motor setups.
One of the fellas over on the 1st Gen forum replaced his original motors with newer, efficient motors.

 

[qkcuda]

I've seen it done by others, swapping out the old for newer more efficient single and dual motor setups.
One of the fellas over on the 1st Gen forum replaced his original motors with newer, efficient motors.

I'd be interested information on what motors he used and if there was much fab involved. I have one motor that may be toast.

 

[RedBeard]

I'd be interested information on what motors he used and if there was much fab involved. I have one motor that may be toast.

This one:

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Double-Shaft-Torque-Reduction/dp/B078VSBK69/ref=sr_1_7?crid=I25MKBGZ7OBL&dchild=1&keywords=uxcell+double+shaft+worm+gear&qid=1609374136&sprefix=uxcell+double+shaft+,aps,241&sr=8-7&th=1

 

[qkcuda]

Thanks, but I believe that's the one for the single motor shaft conversion. I was wondering about modern dual motor replacements.

 

[67 Mopar]

I'd be interested information on what motors he used and if there was much fab involved. I have one motor that may be toast.

I sent him a PM... I'll let you know if he responds.
If memory serves however, I believe he used a 12V deer feeder motor mounted directly to the existing gear reduction setup.

 

[chrger1967]

I've seen it done by others, swapping out the old for newer more efficient single and dual motor setups.
One of the fellas over on the 1st Gen forum replaced his original motors with newer, efficient motors.

When you say efficient, does that mean the motors are less expensive?

 

[RemCharger]

When you say efficient, does that mean the motors are less expensive?

The original motors are like rube Goldberg machines. Newer motors are newer, less complicated, more reliable. Probably less expensive than rebuilding originals. BUT, now you have a somewhat clowny home made conversion. It sounds good on paper, but I'd rather have the original system working properly. These cars won't see winters anymore or daily use of the headlights. Should last the rest our days if rebuilt

 

[67 Mopar]

When you say efficient, does that mean the motors are less expensive?

Less expensive and draw less current (amps).

 

[67 Mopar]

I'm currently updating the wiring harnesses in my Charger, so I figured I'd started here with the forward harness at the grille, rewiring all of the lamp sockets etc. While I was at it, I thought I may as well go ahead and swap out the original bucket motors for a single shaft design, and post it over here as well as the 66-67charger.com forum. I have most of the actual detailed info over on the 1st Gen forum, but I wanted to drop a little something here as well, since folks here were inquiring about this mod. I deleted the entire (3) relay system for the OEM motors, so I just have (1) relay now that runs the whole show. This did require a few changes to the forward harness, but it was no big deal since I had already planned on taking it apart anyway.

Anywho... Long story short, heres a quick video of the single motor, single shaft system in operation. Coincidently, the motor I chose to use here just happens to be the same one posted by RedBeard in the link above. It was the best choice given the other available options. As previously mentioned, the complete mod is detailed fairly well over on the 1st Gen forum. It's still a work in progress, but the main body of the work is posted there. You have to be a registered member to view it however... Member only access helps to keep the "bots" and other unwanted guests from viewing the forum.

Conveniently, the SS drive shafts more or less disappears behind the center ridge of the chrome grille, and the motor does a good job of hiding behind the grille medallion. Once everything gets painted black, it'll all be more or less invisible to anyone not deliberately looking for it.

 

[RemCharger]

I'm currently updating the wiring harnesses in my Charger, so I figured I'd started here with the forward harness at the grille, rewiring all of the lamp sockets etc. While I was at it, I thought I may as well go ahead and swap out the original bucket motors for a single shaft design, and post it over here as well as the 66-67charger.com forum. I have most of the actual detailed info over on the 1st Gen forum, but I wanted to drop a little something here as well, since folks here were inquiring about this mod. I deleted the entire (3) relay system for the OEM motors, so I just have (1) relay now that runs the whole show. This did require a few changes to the forward harness, but it was no big deal since I had already planned on taking it apart anyway.

Anywho... Long story short, heres a quick video of the single motor, single shaft system in operation. Coincidently, the motor I chose to use here just happens to be the same one posted by RedBeard in the link above. It was the best choice given the other available options. As previously mentioned, the complete mod is detailed fairly well over on the 1st Gen forum. It's still a work in progress, but the main body of the work is posted there. You have to be a registered member to view it however... Member only access helps to keep the "bots" and other unwanted guests from viewing the forum.



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Conveniently, the SS drive shafts more or less disappears behind the center ridge of the chrome grille, and the motor does a good job of hiding behind the grille medallion. Once everything gets painted black, it'll all be more or less invisible to anyone not deliberately looking for it.

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Awesome! Had to watch it several times
The 66 guys would have trouble trying to replicate your demonstration.