Just an FYI for ya, and to shut my fordrolet buddies up about "my big heavy dodge.." (they swear these cars are 4000lbs) I weighed my car, on a certified scale and it was 3440 without me in it..68 Satellite AS IT IS NOW= no carpet, no a/c or heater and no hood yet..no spare tire in the trunk. Has a 440 with edelbrock heads and RPM intake, aluminum water pump&housing, demon carb, old hooker headers, powermaster starter. Power steering, steel driveline, 8-3/4 sure grip, manual disc/drum brakes on 15x6 & 15x8 steelies. I have two front buckets from an '03 stratus sxt coupe and the factory 68 rear seat, rest of the body is all original steel and both original chrome bumpers are on.....so, even when I add my fiberglass hood and carpet+insulator (a few more lbs) it's gonna be much lighter than even I thought it would.....take that full-frame losers! (they do have less chance of twisting into a pretzel but that's for another thread...)