A few questions

[Red63440]

First...did anyone who installed the Lokar throttle cable have to shorten the threads on the threaded cable end at the gas pedal end to get full throttle?

Second...Where is the closest power source to pick up power for my electric choke??

Third...Ah...Give me time I will think of something!

 

[5.7 hemi]

Couldn't you take power from the hot side of the coil?

 

[Red63440]

I would think so BUT I didn't want to do it and then have an "OH ****" moment.

 

[5.7 hemi]

When I was young and dumb, my el camino had an electric choke and thats where I robbed power for the electric choke, worked fine.

 

[lewtot184]

use a switched on source. the run side of the ballast resister will work. i think the hot side of the coil is always hot even with the key in the off position.

 

[Red63440]

There is my 3rd question.....I am running a Pertronix conversion and they recommend by passing the ballast resistor....how would you do that?

 

[coloradodave]

Take all the wires that are on one side of the resistor and splice them to all the wires on the other side of it. A neat way to do this is to put ring terminals (crimp & solder) on all the wires and then get a firewall mounted insulated lug and secure them all to it. BTW, the + side of the coil is only hot when the ignition switch is in the 'on' or 'start' position. With key off, there is no voltage at the coil. You can also hook your choke (+) wire to the lug. Check your Pertronics installation instructions as some systems advise you not to get voltage from the coil. MSD is an example.

 

[383man]

About the throttle I had to bend the linkage at the gas pedal inside the car so that the pedal would sit up higher and that gave it more travel to get wide open throttle as I could not get wide open throttle at first but it was not because of the Lokar cable. It was because it needed more pedal travel. Ron

 

[BBDart]

Did everybody forget the coil only has around 9 volts....thats what the ballast is for, to lower the voltage to the coil....hook it up on the 12 volt side of the ballast!!!

 

[coloradodave]

bbdart; The ballast will be bypassed.

 

[BBDart]

get the 12 volt for the choke from the 12 volt side of the ballast...it wont bypass nothing!!!! try reading what the op wrote!

 

[coloradodave]

There is my 3rd question.....I am running a Pertronix conversion and they recommend by passing the ballast resistor....how would you do that?

bbdart: Here we go again. Red63440 is installing an electronic ignition distributor. There is NO LONGER A NEED for a ballast resistor! You might want to reread (or not) my post about deleting the ballast resistor and joining all the wires with an insulated lug that mounts to the firewall. No need to get snippy! Again, aren't we all trying to help? These posts don't need to turn into pissing contests..........

 

[BBDart]

not snippy...as I said...weather he is installing pertronix or not..get the power for the choke from the 12 volt side of the ballast.If he is still running the stock coil with the pertronix and he can,DO NOT REMOVE THE BALLAST...he will still need a ballast.I was just reminding everybody that the power at the coil is not 12 volt and is not hot with the key on!! I guess I'm done pissing!!!...lol
Yeah I thought we were trying to give the right info...If he doesn't change the coil he will cook the stock one with straight 12 volt..If your going to give the right info...then get it right!!!!!..I'm Done!!!!

 

[Red63440]

I am running the pertronix blaster coil also and according to Pertronix they recommend removing the balast resistor.

 

[coloradodave]

BBdart: OK. The reason you have a ballast resistor is NOT to save the coil. It exists to reduce the voltage to the coil in order to allow the stock POINTS to last longer. Once you remove the points there is NO REASON to have a ballast resistor. These are the facts whether or not you choose to believe them. Sometimes I wish people had to pass a test before expounding on a subject on this forum.

 

[BBDart]

Good luck with that...but I wasn't talking about points...If thats the case then why does pertronix tell you to use a blaster coil if you are going to remove the ballast...hmm and so does all other companys....must be fantastic to have more knowledge then all the big ignition companys!! Red63440 you are correct if you are using a blaster coil you can remove the ballast...IT IS NOT A STOCK COIL!!! I have a pertronix in my /6 ,stock coil with ballast...works great!!

 

[coloradodave]

BBdart; I don't have more knowledge than the ignition companies. However; I do know how to read and interpret installation instructions. Pertronix states in their instructions: "compatible with "point style coils". It doesn't say Blaster coils, Accel coils, high performance coils or anything except "points style coils". All the ignition companies recommend "high output" coils because higher voltage to the plugs means less chance of misfires and more complete combustion.
You are missing the point here. A stock coil will operate fine without a ballast resistor as long as it is not triggered by points. If you want to WIN the pissing contest you are going to have to find printed material from Petronix, MSD, Accel or Mallory stating that you CAN'T use a stock coil with their electronic conversion kits. Again, recommending using a high output coil and requiring it are two different things. Good luck with that.

 

[BBDart]

Huh...I seem to remember that you said that the ballast was only used for..."to reduce the voltage to the coil in order to allow the stock POINTS to last longer".hmmm wonder why mopar used them on electronic ignitions...I guess so it will help the wheel and pickup to last longer, Ma mopar knew nothing I guess!!!...don't tell me let me guess..you used to own chebys or ferds right!!..Dude give up and go back and try and impress the losers with Chebys or Ferds
Have a nice day!!

 

[coloradodave]

BBdart: Still looking for that information from Pertronix, MSD, Accel or Mallory that states you can't use a stock coil with their conversion kits. Guess you couldn't find it, huh? That's because it DOESN'T EXIST. When you take to insulting me instead of providing facts, I'm done. You might try taking an ASE Certified Automotive course to improve your knowledge of automotive electronics. Have a great life, friend..............

 

[BBDart]

I never said you cant use a stock coil!! I use a stock coil with my pertronix with a ballast like they say to do in the instructions if you are still running the stock coil...I wired the module to the 12 v side of the ballast like you are supposed to.If you remove the ballast and wire the stock coil straight 12 v you will eventually cook the coil.Whats your lame *** ASE Certified Automotive course tell you why Ma Mopar used a ballast with electronic ignition.I see you didn't answer that!!!!..being ASE Certified don't mean ****,all the idiots at the stealer ships are, and they are some of the worst mechanics I have ever seen so that don't mean **** to me!!! I've been building and repairing MOPARS for over 36 yrs..I think I have learned a little bit over the yrs and I don't need some lame *** certificate to try and impress people...my perfect running stock 48 yr old dart wagon and my 11 sec Dodge 440 to name a few say's it all!!!...You have a nice day!!!!