B Body starter problem

[Dodge 340]

Are the dowels in the block?

yes

 

[Dodge 340]

Usually the problem is at the u in the block not allowing the starter to sit flat and proper.
Grind it out with a die grinder.
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Did that

 

[Runner 68]

Haven't read the whole thread but have you tried a jumper wire from the main starter post to the small terminal?

 

[RemCharger]

Post some pics? Starter, starter hole, converter etc

 

[Fran Blacker]

Did the starter have a Plastic cover covering another set of terminals? If so remove it and use terminal under it.

 

[kiwigtx]

How do you make an adjustment between the flywheel and the starter?

Back off the bolts......there is enough slop in the bolt holes to give enough of a clearance.....nip the bolts up a little, then push the starter sideways away from the ring gear and then tighten the bolts.

You will get enough clearance. I have done this myself.

 

[493 Mike]

I am using MSDs mini starter and I inquired about using the seal plate and they told me not to use it. That may be an issue.
Mike

 

[kiwigtx]

Back off the bolts......there is enough slop in the bolt holes to give enough of a clearance.....nip the bolts up a little, then push the starter sideways away from the ring gear and then tighten the bolts.

You will get enough clearance. I have done this myself.

Back off the bolts......there is enough slop in the bolt holes to give enough of a clearance.....nip the bolts up a little, then push the starter sideways away from the ring gear and then tighten the bolts.

You will get enough clearance. I have done this myself.

 

[Dodge 340]

Did the starter have a Plastic cover covering another set of terminals? If so remove it and use terminal under it.

Yes, I did do that. No change.

 

[Dodge 340]

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Back off the bolts......there is enough slop in the bolt holes to give enough of a clearance.....nip the bolts up a little, then push the starter sideways away from the ring gear and then tighten the bolts.

You will get enough clearance. I have done this myself.

Yes, I tried that. But with the nose of the starter fitting into the hole back in the bell housing you don't have much play at all. It made no change.

 

[kiwigtx]

Yes, I tried that. But with the nose of the starter fitting into the hole back in the bell housing you don't have much play at all. It made no change.

Post up a link to the starter you bought from Summit please.

 

[Dodge 340]

Yes, I tried that. But with the nose of the starter fitting into the hole back in the bell housing you don't have much play at all. It made no change.

Do you think that the new torque converter/ring gear could possibly be faulty? Like the gear is not machined properly? Because it really looks like the starter gear is too close to the ring gear. When I hook up a starter button directly from the battery to the starter, I hit the button about 6 or 7 times before it actually engages into the ring gear. The other 5 or 6 times the starter gear hits the teeth on the ring gear. But the bendix returns every time whether it engages or not.

 

[kiwigtx]

Do you think that the new torque converter/ring gear could possibly be faulty? Like the gear is not machined properly? Because it really looks like the starter gear is too close to the ring gear. When I hook up a starter button directly from the battery to the starter, I hit the button about 6 or 7 times before it actually engages into the ring gear. The other 5 or 6 times the starter gear hits the teeth on the ring gear. But the bendix returns every time whether it engages or not.

From reading all the responses above, and you claiming you have dismissed all suggestions by trial & error.....I can only conclude that the starter is not the correct one for your car. I doubt that Summit would send out faulty parts - at least not twice in a row.....sniggers a bit....

Show us the starter, and a picture of it if possible. Let's see if there are any contact witness marks on the teeth or the frame of the starter.

 

[RemCharger]

Do you think that the new torque converter/ring gear could possibly be faulty? Like the gear is not machined properly? Because it really looks like the starter gear is too close to the ring gear. When I hook up a starter button directly from the battery to the starter, I hit the button about 6 or 7 times before it actually engages into the ring gear. The other 5 or 6 times the starter gear hits the teeth on the ring gear. But the bendix returns every time whether it engages or not.

That is where I was heading..
Pics,,, maybe a measurement of distance from the gear to the trans flange/ bellhousing

 

[Don Frelier]

That is where I was heading..
Pics,,, maybe a measurement of distance from the gear to the trans flange/ bellhousing

It's possible to shim the converter back but not forward of course.

 

[Dodge 340]

Post up a link to the starter you bought from Summit please.

Not sure how to do that but summit part # SUM-820441

 

[Dodge 340]

That is where I was heading..
Pics,,, maybe a measurement of distance from the gear to the trans flange/ bellhousing

New member and not real good with a computer. The ring gear at the bottom of the bell housing is only about 1/4" from gear to housing. Converter seems to measure 11.5" with 130 teeth. Does that seem correct?

 

[kiwigtx]

Not sure how to do that but summit part # SUM-820441

Summit Racing SUM-820441 Summit Racing™ Mini High-Torque Starters | Summit Racing

 

[Dodge 340]

From reading all the responses above, and you claiming you have dismissed all suggestions by trial & error.....I can only conclude that the starter is not the correct one for your car. I doubt that Summit would send out faulty parts - at least not twice in a row.....sniggers a bit....

Show us the starter, and a picture of it if possible. Let's see if there are any contact witness marks on the teeth or the frame of the starter.

 

[kiwigtx]

Is that tooth damage I can see in on the ring gear?

Was there any play with the bolts holding the starter loosened off? There should be enough to move it around some.