California Car exemptions by Jay Leno

[1KoolBee]

I don't understand why conservatives keep paying taxes in California.

There’s lots of conservatives in Commiefornia. Problem is the Commie Demorats control the government and the elections. Plus there’s a lot of stupid people in the big cities. I believe the elections there have been rigged for years. How else would you get the “ Bullet train to nowhere”? When you can fly from San Diego to Sacramento for $99 bucks??? How else would “Shooter McGavin Newsome” dodge recall???Leave and let it crater, the libtards can have their just desserts. Has to get worse before it gets better.

 

[F4R/T]

Can we send Pritzker over there? I’ll take 30 kern dogs if they will take one Pritzker..

 

[70runner]

Something that ALL you NON Californians need to know is that those of us that live in California have shown NO signs of supporting the insanity that goes on here. When you bash the state, direct your insults to the government and not the state.
Personally, I don't support the BS that they have been pushing for years ANY MORE than you.
I could name at least 10-12 forum members that live in this state that share the same views as I do and that 98% of this forum does.

Amen. We tolerate the taxes, high gas prices because we love our quiet little 5 acres in the hills of N. San Diego county, interrupted only by the sounds of freedom from Pendleton. As to Newscum and his merry band of socialist legislators, they can FOAD.

 

[OneWheelPeel]

I haven't left yet because (and I think I would feel this way if I was conservative)
1. I hate the moving process
2. there is the devil I know vs the devil I don't know aspect
3. I think there is craziness here, but other states also have stuff that seems crazy to me, or at least foreign enough that I don't know if I want to adjust at my age, like places with real winters.
4. In my personal life the only really aggravating thing is the smog laws, the other noise isn't affecting me directly. It took a long time but life is pretty good right now.

 

[fesser]

I haven't left yet because (and I think I would feel this way if I was conservative)
1. I hate the moving process
2. there is the devil I know vs the devil I don't know aspect
3. I think there is craziness here, but other states also have stuff that seems crazy to me, or at least foreign enough that I don't know if I want to adjust at my age, like places with real winters.
4. In my personal life the only really aggravating thing is the smog laws, the other noise isn't affecting me directly. It took a long time but life is pretty good right now.

All of the above, plus
5. Family that lives in this state, including three daughters that my wife won't move away from
6. If you remove politics and morons the state itself (climate, outdoor activities, etc.) is hard to beat.

 

[j-c-c-62]

I haven't left yet because (and I think I would feel this way if I was conservative)
1. I hate the moving process
2. there is the devil I know vs the devil I don't know aspect
3. I think there is craziness here, but other states also have stuff that seems crazy to me, or at least foreign enough that I don't know if I want to adjust at my age, like places with real winters.
4. In my personal life the only really aggravating thing is the smog laws, the other noise isn't affecting me directly. It took a long time but life is pretty good right now.

2a. Like Florida, speaking of crazy or that we got hit by lightning 14,000,000 times last year

 

[Kern Dog]

YOU try to get the rest of your family to move away from the state you're in.
It is borderline impossible to get 4 people to agree on a restaurant. GOOD luck getting them to pack up and move.

 

[Kern Dog]

A person from another state telling a Californian to just move is akin to saying to the poor people ...Let them eat cake.
It is a BS platitude. Getting an extended family to move is not likely. Your suggestion is not helpful by any measure.
We Californians often say to the people in Tornado Alley Just MOVE yet many choose to rebuild and stay.
WE don't have bad weather events, high humidity, bugs the size of small birds, rusty cars or any of the negatives you guys have in other states.
No place is perfect.
Just like it is with chicks.....sometimes the best looking ones are boring while the ones that are the most fun are fat or ugly to look at.

 

[fesser]

Then you all should get to work on number 5.

I am going to guess that you didn't live in California and then convince your extended family to move to Oklahoma. Maybe you did. As I said, I am guessing. If, by chance, you didn't, then I am going to consider your advice and file it under easier said than done.

 

[68-500]

I can understand the concern about the possibility of making old poorly tuned non cat cars into daily drivers, no matter where one lives.
Seems like a good acceptable self-restricting compromise for everybody would be simply require there be less than a 10? year old car registered, licensed, and insured to same person same address as the historic car.
Nobody will want to make a daily driver out of an old car when they have an under 10-year-old modern car insured sitting in the driveway with the cost of fuel, etc.
I believe that is often the requirement anyway for collector insurance anyway.
You want to really reduce air pollution incrementally everywhere, do away with fast food window drive thru lines, or at the least add a window surcharge, people need the exercise anyway, then enforce no rubbernecking laws, how, I have no idea.
We could also mandate drafting at anything over 50mph? Oh wait, they already are doing that.

I hope your joking about making a person have a car newer than 10 years old to register a classic? The newest vehicle I own is a 2001 Ram 1500 followed by 1998 Ram 3500, then the 68 Coronet. No way in hell Im going to spend my hard earned cash on the junk they’ve built in the last decade.

 

[j-c-c-62]

I hope your joking about making a person have a car newer than 10 years old to register a classic? The newest vehicle I own is a 2001 Ram 1500 followed by 1998 Ram 3500, then the 68 Coronet. No way in hell Im going to spend my hard earned cash on the junk they’ve built in the last decade.

No I am not , joking would include , etc. It is called a "compromise", with a question mark, It was not a "my way or the highway" offering. The point was if a person had another car that had regulated required mileage and pollution standards when built sitting in their driveway, insured, tagged, and smog tested, they would be financially motivated to make that their daily driver. Now if they only had a historical car 35+ years not smog checked, and made that their daily driver, the emissions could be rather significant. So what compromise are you suggesting, anything newer than 1998? The "my way or the highway" so prevalent today is why we are in the current pickle, IMO.

 

[j-c-c-62]

It is borderline impossible to get 4 people to agree on a restaurant.

Separate checks normally fixes that issue.

 

[F4R/T]

I don’t blame you guys for loving Ca. I’d like to see it and spend time there myself..

 

[RR Fan Dan]

I don’t blame you guys for loving Ca. I’d like to see it and spend time there myself..

I grew up there. It’s a beautiful state. Very unique places you won’t find anywhere else in the country. From mountains to volcanos and deserts to oceans. And others are right. Once you get out of the Bay Area and Los Angeles everyone is conservative. But even if you live in a conservative area, you still have to put up with the high taxes and cost of living. Glad I moved. Virginia is beautiful too, and the cost of living is way cheaper.

 

[F4R/T]

Sounds like Illinois , Chicago is the most important and the rest just gets pocket lint.

 

[OneWheelPeel]

2a. Like Florida, speaking of crazy or that we got hit by lightning 14,000,000 times last year

I almost used that as an example but at the time I could only think of wording that would trash them. I’d like to go there and drive a few laps on Cletus Mcfarland’s track tho.

 

[Kern Dog]

The beauty of evidence is that it can either confirm something or refute it.

Tell me why more people don't have the sense to leave.

All of the above, plus
5. Family that lives in this state, including three daughters that my wife won't move away from
6. If you remove politics and morons the state itself (climate, outdoor activities, etc.) is hard to beat.

Then you all should get to work on number 5.

Never said pack up and move, your words.

Read what I said and stop taking it personal.

You never "said" anything but you wrote a few things. What do you expect others to think you meant by "Have the sense to leave" then "work on number 5" as it pertains to family living in the same state?
It clearly was a sentiment to move and to work on convincing your family to move as well.
You were called out and tried to back track.

If you have family that you are close to and they don't want to move, moving out of state can be really difficult.
I know. I almost made the move. Walking away from family and friends was something that I dreaded doing.
I don't know what my limit would be. You know, the tipping point where I'd say screw it and leave despite having multiple cars and lots of tools and parts to haul out of here. The EV mandate was a close one even though I don't see the need for any new car purchase. A ban or restriction on classic car use would absolutely do it.
If "Leno's Law" fails, there is still the Feds and the EPA rollbacks that may change things.

 

[68-500]

No I am not , joking would include , etc. It is called a "compromise", with a question mark, It was not a "my way or the highway" offering. The point was if a person had another car that had regulated required mileage and pollution standards when built sitting in their driveway, insured, tagged, and smog tested, they would be financially motivated to make that their daily driver. Now if they only had a historical car 35+ years not smog checked, and made that their daily driver, the emissions could be rather significant. So what compromise are you suggesting, anything newer than 1998? The "my way or the highway" so prevalent today is why we are in the current pickle, IMO.

I would think a far compromise would be Ill drive whatever I like, whenever I like, wherever I like. As long as it meets the standards it was built with that should be the only compromise.

 

[j-c-c-62]

I would think a far compromise would be Ill drive whatever I like, whenever I like, wherever I like. As long as it meets the standards it was built with that should be the only compromise.

So your "compromise" is you are OK with 100% smog/standard testing, for any and all years of vehicles?

 

[68-500]

Yes we accept that when we make that purchase. All my vehicles should pass the emissions standards they were built with as they are today.