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do i need to replace whole trunk pan?

Seems like most of these cars have several hidden surprises once they are taken apart. No doubt you will find more if you did a total teardown. Myself, I would replace the pans now or make it a winter project. I hate doing things twice, and why cover it up with a band-aid. Looks like a good father - son project to me.
 
Fella's, ah the OEM supply of sheetmetal for these cars dried up in 1980 when Chrysler went bankrupt, all the old OEM/NOS steel was either junked, or some one bought it, which for sure, by now is all gone. AMD is the main player in this game, thank god they make this stuff!
 
Fella's, ah the OEM supply of sheetmetal for these cars dried up in 1980 when Chrysler went bankrupt, all the old OEM/NOS steel was either junked, or some one bought it, which for sure, by now is all gone. AMD is the main player in this game, thank god they make this stuff!
so amd is best place to buy the pans from...i seen year one and a few others have them but wasnt sure which company to go with...iv read many threads on here and they all liked and was happy with amd products...thats were i planned on ordering from..
 
AMD is your best bet for metal. That's the route for aftermarket tin I would go. Don't expect a perfect match/fit. In one way or another fresh panels will need tweeking to make them work. Check out my thread, Detmatts, Donny's GTX, SGT's and a few other threads. With major AMD metal placement, that will give you a real good idea what i'm talking about when it comes to dealing with aftermarket panels. When I mentioned OEM, I did not mean go down to Dodge and try to order some. That would lead to you getting laughed out of the place and a conversation piece for the parts counter guy for the next two years. I was refering to patching and trying to leave as much original (OEM) metal in place as you can. OEM metal out of a donor/parts car works well (ask the pre-'68 guys), but good floor pans or trunk pans out of them, well...good luck.

Here's where I can see justifying a patch. Every so often we see guys come on here with a project and being new to the world of restoration, unfortunately they have no concept of what they're up against. The time/money/equipment/facility to achieve major autobody goals is staggering. They start by blowing 2-3K in AMD panels and tearing the car apart. Before too long it becomes very apparent they bit off more than can chew. One panel off lead to another bad one, then another and it becomes a runaway train. Your one month project just turned into months worth of work and 2-3K is now 5. Here comes in the time/money/equipment/facility factor as well as frustration because of not having the know how or immediate resources to engage issues. So the car sits for a month, then another then another. After awhile the car becomes a thorn in the side and ends up on craigslist, along with a pissed off old lady and a billfold full of tumbleweeds. This is reality. I'm not saying in that senario, they all turn out like that, but flip a coin.

Your car "looks" pretty solid....You don't have a lot of experience under your belt and sounds like you're a bit younger (thus, possibly don't have major funds, tools, equip, facility and have constraints like a younger family to contend with or something along those lines). As long as you patch out to good metal I don't see the issue. It will be cheaper, quicker, require less work and less skill. Yup, down the road panels will need to be changed, who knows how long, but even the guys that blast and go for the full rostisserrie have rust in between the pinched panels that will eventualy bubble out and need to be changed. Like I said, where does the maddness end? Unless you completley disassemble every panel off the car, you'll never get all the rust, and even after that, the process starts all over again. It's just the way it is.

So, you're not going to be visiting every local car show on lazy sundays, you're not tearing the car down for a full resto, you wanna be on the road. Do you take the leap and tear into it or isolate what you got and move for a full resto a bit down the road? That's the question you'll have to figure out on your own. Like mentioned earlier, check out the restoration threads. That will give you a real good look of what it takes and where your project can lead. Lotta guys here with a lot of experience that are always willing to help when the need arises. Learn what others have had to do. Take a look at the work, experience, time, money involved and think about where you and your plymouth would fit into a senario like that. Either way....patches or panels, we'll be here to help.
 
will,those words were never more true. That's why i'm putting my vote in to nominate you for b-body member of the day.
 
LMAO! "member of the day".....

That's hilarious Roger. Do I win anything? A Do it Yourself paper airplane kit or something?
 
LMAO! "member of the day".....

That's hilarious Roger. Do I win anything? A Do it Yourself paper airplane kit or something?

i'm sure if we ask some other members here they good probably come up with something good,you're not getting scared yet,are you.
 
josh,now is the time to start your own restoration thread on your project with lots of photos and text the perfect father/son project , you no we all like car ****, enjoy your your new adventures.:headbang::headbang::headbang:
 
josh,now is the time to start your own restoration thread on your project with lots of photos and text the perfect father/son project , you no we all like car ****, enjoy your your new adventures.:headbang::headbang::headbang:

ill make a thread in that forum and put pics and updates on project.. if i run into trouble(which i will) i can ask advice of others on here...iv gotten so much help since i joined and everyones been awsome and helped alot...mopar owners are the best.....it nice too meet so many ppl willing to help and offer good advice, ,i appreciate every bit of it
 
AMD is your best bet for metal. That's the route for aftermarket tin I would go. Don't expect a perfect match/fit. In one way or another fresh panels will need tweeking to make them work. Check out my thread, Detmatts, Donny's GTX, SGT's and a few other threads. With major AMD metal placement, that will give you a real good idea what i'm talking about when it comes to dealing with aftermarket panels. When I mentioned OEM, I did not mean go down to Dodge and try to order some. That would lead to you getting laughed out of the place and a conversation piece for the parts counter guy for the next two years. I was refering to patching and trying to leave as much original (OEM) metal in place as you can. OEM metal out of a donor/parts car works well (ask the pre-'68 guys), but good floor pans or trunk pans out of them, well...good luck.

Here's where I can see justifying a patch. Every so often we see guys come on here with a project and being new to the world of restoration, unfortunately they have no concept of what they're up against. The time/money/equipment/facility to achieve major autobody goals is staggering. They start by blowing 2-3K in AMD panels and tearing the car apart. Before too long it becomes very apparent they bit off more than can chew. One panel off lead to another bad one, then another and it becomes a runaway train. Your one month project just turned into months worth of work and 2-3K is now 5. Here comes in the time/money/equipment/facility factor as well as frustration because of not having the know how or immediate resources to engage issues. So the car sits for a month, then another then another. After awhile the car becomes a thorn in the side and ends up on craigslist, along with a pissed off old lady and a billfold full of tumbleweeds. This is reality. I'm not saying in that senario, they all turn out like that, but flip a coin.

Your car "looks" pretty solid....You don't have a lot of experience under your belt and sounds like you're a bit younger (thus, possibly don't have major funds, tools, equip, facility and have constraints like a younger family to contend with or something along those lines). As long as you patch out to good metal I don't see the issue. It will be cheaper, quicker, require less work and less skill. Yup, down the road panels will need to be changed, who knows how long, but even the guys that blast and go for the full rostisserrie have rust in between the pinched panels that will eventualy bubble out and need to be changed. Like I said, where does the maddness end? Unless you completley disassemble every panel off the car, you'll never get all the rust, and even after that, the process starts all over again. It's just the way it is.

So, you're not going to be visiting every local car show on lazy sundays, you're not tearing the car down for a full resto, you wanna be on the road. Do you take the leap and tear into it or isolate what you got and move for a full resto a bit down the road? That's the question you'll have to figure out on your own. Like mentioned earlier, check out the restoration threads. That will give you a real good look of what it takes and where your project can lead. Lotta guys here with a lot of experience that are always willing to help when the need arises. Learn what others have had to do. Take a look at the work, experience, time, money involved and think about where you and your plymouth would fit into a senario like that. Either way....patches or panels, we'll be here to help.

just went through your pics of your resto projects and they look awsome....wish i had them skills....im in auto tech school right now to get certified and im 1 yr in and have 1 left too go...im good on mechanical side just gotta pratice welding thats my biggest thing i need to learn is how to fully weld
 
Thanks Josh. You can and will have those skills if you keep pegging away at it, keep asking questions and learn from others.

I can honestly say welding is my favorite part of autobody. Even the prep and fit up is fun. Learn as much from your dad as you can, it is an absolutely great skill to have and makes a huge difference what your capabilities are when it comes down to restoring cars. Even outside the auto world, if you can weld, you can get a job (especially around here) and good paying ones at that.

There are plenty of threads on this site that address welding that may help you along. Best thing is to get some scap metal and start practicing. Play with the wire size, speed/amps, weld inverted, horizontal, vertical and nozzle position...Play with different thicknesses of metal like 16G, 18G, 20 Gauge so on and so fourth. Heck even see what happens when trying to run an arc on half rotton metal, how it pops and crackles-ending up with pososity (gas holes) in the weld.
 
Thanks Josh. You can and will have those skills if you keep pegging away at it, keep asking questions and learn from others.

I can honestly say welding is my favorite part of autobody. Even the prep and fit up is fun. Learn as much from your dad as you can, it is an absolutely great skill to have and makes a huge difference what your capabilities are when it comes down to restoring cars. Even outside the auto world, if you can weld, you can get a job (especially around here) and good paying ones at that.

There are plenty of threads on this site that address welding that may help you along. Best thing is to get some scap metal and start practicing. Play with the wire size, speed/amps, weld inverted, horizontal, vertical and nozzle position...Play with different thicknesses of metal like 16G, 18G, 20 Gauge so on and so fourth. Heck even see what happens when trying to run an arc on half rotton metal, how it pops and crackles-ending up with pososity (gas holes) in the weld.
i started a thread in resto forum...fig id put plenty of pics up and show and tell what im doing...between me my dad and the help from everyone here i feel confident taking the car on...i like working on my cars..
 
be prepared to spend a lot of money , its not going to be cheap you mite find yourself spreading this out over a time peroid, unless you found the money tree we all are looking for.:headbang:
 
unless you found the money tree we all are looking for.

Don't know if you got the memo or not, but unfortunately that withered up and died quite a while ago...sorry bud. :icon_hang:
 
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