How many parts and pieces are in a complete 440 V8 engine?

[BeepBeepRR]

I would say you're doing darned good, but where is the Camshaft ?

Overlooked but now added. Hell I counted the timing chain and everything that touches it but forgot to add the cam lol.

 

[eldubb440]

3........the answer is always 3

 

[themechanic]

Stock or modified?

 

[Cranky]

How about all the pieces inside the carb? That will vary with carb type and how many carbs. Same for what's inside the lifters. Some do dig into those. Full floating pistons will add 16 keepers.....and I always tear into my oil pumps to measure the rotor to end plate clearance and check the holes, debur and check the spring. How many parts inside of a starter?

 

[4speed68rt]

Now you are making it complicated. Lets just say a Stock Long Block.

 

[themechanic]

Now you are making it complicated. Lets just say a Stock Long Block.

I was merely joking.

 

[themechanic]

The mystery can be solved in a few hours by a highly motivated tweaker with a set of tools.

 

[WileERobby]

Well here is a start to the question asked. I think I have a lot of this correct. But I know I missed a few items. I was bored... So here ya go.

36 parts in a rocker arm set. "stock setup"
16 push rods
2 head gaskets
32 valve stem keepers
16 lifters
1 cam single bolt or 3 bolt.
1 timing chain
2 timing gears
1 oil slinger
1 cam gear bolt or 3 depending on cam.
1 cam gear washer
1 crank bolt
1 crank bolt washer
8 timing chain cover bolts
1 timing chain cover
1 timing chain cover gasket
5 cam bearings
1 rear cam block plug
1 oil dipstick 2 piece
24 pieces for oil pan including bolts, gasket and oil plug on the pan.
1 pickup tube for the oil pan
16 rod bolts
16 rod nuts
8 wrist pins
16 upper and lower rod bearings
8 rods
40 rings
8 pistons
68 head bolts and washers "ARP"
2 cast iron heads
1 distributor
1 distributor hold down
1 distributor hold down bolt
1 distributor gasket/ O-ring
1 distributor cap
1 rotor button
8 spark plugs
9 spark plug wires including coil
1 coil
1 coil bracket
2 coil bracket bolts
4 carb studs
4 carb bolts
1 carb gasket
1 carb
1 throttle bracket/kickdown
1 set of points or 2 depending on the distributor
8 head coolant plugs
12 exhaust studs
48 valve springs, retainers and valves as a total number for both heads.
4 Intake gaskets
1 valley pan
6 cross bar bolts for valley pan rails
2 cross bars
1 intake
8 bolts for intake
8 washers for intake
16 lifters
1 crank
10 main bearings
10 main bearing cap bolts
5 main caps
1 crank keyway
1 rear main oil seal retainer
2 oil seal retainer bolts
8 piece rear main seal
1 front seal for timing cover
6 crank pulley bolts
1 harmonic balancer
1 flex plate
6 flex plate bolts
1 water pump housing
1 water pump
1 water pump housing neck
1 thermostat
1 thermostat housing gasket
1 water pump gasket
2 water pump to block gaskets
7 water pump housing to block bolts
11 flat washers
11 lock washers
4 fan to water pump bolts
2 water neck to housing bolts
12 valve cover bolts
2 valve covers
2 valve cover gaskets
1 oil pump
1 oil pump intermediate shaft
4 oil pump top block bolts
1 oil pump to block gasket
1 oil pump shaft o-ring
1 fuel pump
1 fuel pump to block gasket
2 fuel pump to block bolts

 

[eldubb440]

how many parts in each lifter? each valve spring assbemly? in the oil pump? i'll stick with 3

 

[BeepBeepRR]

how many parts in each lifter? each valve spring assbemly? in the oil pump? i'll stick with 3

Now we are getting nit picky. lol Lifters come in a box of 16. As far as the internals of components of like the carb, starter and oil pump... Well more nit picking...

 

[BeepBeepRR]

Waiting for my kids dentist appointment soo nothing better to do.

 

[Kern Dog]

Well here is a start to the question asked. I think I have a lot of this correct. But I know I missed a few items. I was bored... So here ya go. Revised for easier counting...

1 oil slinger

1 cam gear bolt or 3 depending on cam.

1 cam gear washer

1 crank bolt

1 crank bolt washer

1 cam single bolt or 3 bolt.

1 timing chain

1 rear cam block plug

1 oil dipstick 2 piece

1 pickup tube for the oil pan

1 distributor

1 distributor hold down

1 distributor hold down bolt

1 distributor gasket/ O-ring

1 distributor cap

1 rotor button

1 carb gasket

1 carb

1 set of points or 2 depending on the distributor

1 throttle bracket/kickdown

1 intake

1 valley pan

1 crank

1 crank keyway

1 rear main oil seal retainer

1 front seal for timing cover

1 harmonic balancer

1 flex plate

1 water pump housing

1 water pump

1 water pump housing neck

1 thermostat

1 thermostat housing gasket

1 water pump gasket

1 oil pump to block gasket

1 oil pump shaft o-ring

1 fuel pump

1 fuel pump to block gasket

1 oil pump

1 oil pump intermediate shaft

1 coil

1 coil bracket

1 timing chain cover

1 timing chain cover gasket

2 head gaskets

2 fuel pump to block bolts

2 oil seal retainer bolts

2 cross bars for valley pan

2 valve covers

2 cast iron heads

2 valve cover gaskets

2 water pump to block gaskets

2 water neck to housing bolts

2 timing gears

2 coil bracket bolts

4 fan to water pump bolts

4 Intake gaskets

4 carb studs

4 carb bolts

4 oil pump top block bolts

5 cam bearings

5 main caps

6 crank pulley bolts

6 flex plate bolts

6 cross bar bolts for valley pan rails

7 water pump housing to block bolts

8 piece rear main seal

8 timing chain cover bolts

8 wrist pins

8 rods

8 pistons

8 spark plugs

8 head coolant plugs

8 bolts for intake

8 washers for intake

9 spark plug wires including coil

10 main bearings

10 main bearing cap bolts

11 flat washers

11 lock washers

12 valve cover bolts

12 exhaust studs

16 lifters

16 push rods

16 rod bolts

16 rod nuts

16 upper and lower rod bearings

24 pieces for oil pan including bolts, gasket and oil plug on the pan.

32 valve stem keepers

36 parts in a rocker arm set. "stock setup"

40 rings

48 valve springs, retainers and valves as a total number for both heads.

68 head bolts and washers "ARP"

On my count, I was over 300.

 

[Cranky]

Now we are getting nit picky. lol Lifters come in a box of 16. As far as the internals of components of like the carb, starter and oil pump... Well more nit picking...

You don't open up a new oil pump and at least check the clearance on the rotor? I didn't either until I got a newly rebuilt engine in my shop because it lost oil pressure within 100 miles and dug in to see what the cause was and found a tiny piece of casting stuck in the bottom of the rotor against the end plate. The pump had .001" clearance and that's too tight. It should be .002 at minimum. Someone didn't clean the block before assembly. I thought it was a bit strange that the filter didn't catch it but it could have come from the oil pump itself. I made pretty good money on that job but it also taught be to debur that new oil pump too.

 

[WileERobby]

but forgot to add the cam lol.

... and you wondered why your engine wouldn't run....

 

[Kern Dog]

Here is what I added up last night.....
1 engine block 6 gallery plugs 6 freeze plugs
2 motor mount brackets 2 insulators 6 bolts 6 washers 6 nuts
1 dipstick tube 1 dipstick
5 main caps 10 bolts
1 intake 8 bolts 2 gaskets
i timing cover. 6 bolts 1 gasket
1 timing chain 1 bolt
1 cam gear
1 crank gear
1 crank 10 bearing halves
1 harmonic balancer 1 bolt 1 washer
1 crank pulley 6 bolts
1 oil slinger
1 oil seal retainer 2 bolts 2 oil seal halves
1 oil pan 20 bolts
1 windage tray 2 gaskets
1 camshaft 5 cam bearings
1 oil pump drive
1 distributor 1 distributor drive bushing 1 cap 1 rotor
8 plug wires, 1 coil wire
1 oil pump 1 gasket 5 bolts 1 pickup
16 lifters
16 pushrods
2 heads 34 bolts 2 gaskets
16 valves
16 springs
16 retainers
16 rocker arms
2 rocker shafts 10 bolts 10 washers
32 valve lock halves
2 valve covers 12 bolts 2 gaskets

1 water pump housing 6 bolts
1 water pump 4 bolts
1 water pump pulley
8 pistons
8 rods 8 piston pins 16 bearing halves
8 rod caps
16 rod bolts
16 piston rings
24 oil control rings
2 exhaust manifolds 2 gaskets 12 sleeve nuts
1 alternator 3 brackets 2 bolts 1 spacer 2 belts
1 starter 2 bolts
1 fuel pump 1 pushrod 2 bolts 1 gasket
1 power steering pump 2 brackets 1 belt 4 bolts
1 idler bracket and pulley 1 spacer 2 bolts 1 belt
1 clutch fan 1 fan clutch 8 bolts 1 belt
1 water temp sending unit
1 oil pressure sending unit
1 carburetor 4 bolts 2 throttle springs 1 bracket
5 pcs KD linkage
8 spark plugs
1 coil 1 bracket 2 bolts


I lost count around 350. EDIT...Using a calculator, I am at 539!

It was not 2:00 AM when I posted this....
It was 1:00 AM here.
I always stay up late when I'm not working. Getting up early for work was what I had to do. Now that I am free of that, I can sleep according to what I have wanted to do for most of my life.
I know, my habits and sleep patterns run counter to most people. I realize that I am the weird one here.

 

[Cranky]

I guess post time meant my time.....

 

[BeepBeepRR]

I just added a few things to my list. Starter, dowel pins starter bolt and nut depending on if you have a stud. Oil pressure sender and Temp sender. One plug for the water pump housing. 2 heater hose pipes in the water pump housing.

 

[Kern Dog]

These are the types of things that cross my mind frequently.
Imagine how annoying I was as a kid....always asking the elders questions like this.
Now I annoy everyone.

 

[1967coronet]

At work I have before tossed 2 or 3 extra bolts in my brothers magnet tray on what he's working on.
He is just a little OCD about that extra bolt thing .
Back to the 440, 329 wag.

 

[Kern Dog]

I was up to 539 at last guess.
Stuff like piston rings really add up when you think of the oil control rings being 3 per cylinder.
Valve train stuff too. 16 rocker arms, pushrods, lifters...all the fasteners really add up too.

20 some odd years ago, I was working a housing tract in Fairfield CA. The marketing department wanted to know how many nails we used in the construction of a house. It was like asking how many tablespoons of water it would take to fill a swimming pool.
The foreman made some bullshit estimate just to appease the ad writers. They just wanted to sound like the houses were built better than their competition even though every builder is required to meet minimum building standards to pass inspections.