Local muffler shop or online kit for 67 Belvedere w/ 318 and factory exhaust manifolds?

[hawkeyestoob]

The title basically says it all.
I am looking to change the exhaust to get a more muscle car sound for our 67 Belvedere. We have already added an Edelbrock performer manifold and 1406 carb along with Pertronix ignition system. I know I want duals from the manifolds back with either an x or h pipe. After that I still am very nostalgic for the sound of good old glass packs. Is there any reason I would want to go with a mail order exhaust system package over going to a good local ahop and having them do it all?

 

[jimbosride]

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There exhaust systems have been "Spot On" for me. There formed to the car line. Put them on, Then take it to a muffler shop for welding if you can't do it your self.

 

[RemCharger]

If you want the good ol sounds, you don't want the x pipe.
Let the ruffled feathers begin.

 

[Jerry Hall]

I'm lucky in the fact that I have a local muffler shop that I can tell what I want, and come back in a few hours and have exactly what I was looking for.

 

[493 Mike]

The title basically says it all.
I am looking to change the exhaust to get a more muscle car sound for our 67 Belvedere. We have already added an Edelbrock performer manifold and 1406 carb along with Pertronix ignition system. I know I want duals from the manifolds back with either an x or h pipe. After that I still am very nostalgic for the sound of good old glass packs. Is there any reason I would want to go with a mail order exhaust system package over going to a good local ahop and having them do it all?

For example here are a couple pics of my home-built system on my 65 318 Poly 65 Coronet. I used cheap glass packs but, they do drone about 55 MPH (I plan to change them for quieter mufflers). I used 2" pipe and purchased U bends.
Mike

 

[hawkeyestoob]

If you want the good ol sounds, you don't want the x pipe.
Let the ruffled feathers begin.

Why is that? I thought having an X or H pipe did not impact sound as much as it help scavenging and performance for a relatively minimal cost.

 

[hawkeyestoob]

I'm lucky in the fact that I have a local muffler shop that I can tell what I want, and come back in a few hours and have exactly what I was looking for.

I had that growing up but anymore there are fewer and fewer of those shops around to do that. I have a couple recommendations in my local(ish) area that I will look into more.

 

[6PKRTSE]

I just buy my own mandrel bends, straight pipes, mufflers, make my own X pipes or H pipes, then make my own full exhaust systems. It may take me a good part of the day, but I know it's done how I want it and much less expensive.

 

[hawkeyestoob]

I just buy my own mandrel bends, straight pipes, mufflers, make my own X pipes or H pipes, then make my own full exhaust systems. It may take me a good part of the day, but I know it's done how I want it and much less expensive.

I like that idea but I am not certain I can convince my wife that there has really been any savings since I do not own a welder and would need to buy one.

 

[6PKRTSE]

I like that idea but I am not certain I can convince my wife that there has really been any savings since I do not own a welder and would need to buy one.

Best way to learn. Buy a welder and practice, practice, practice.

 

[RemCharger]

Why is that? I thought having an X or H pipe did not impact sound as much as it help scavenging and performance for a relatively minimal cost.

In your first post all you mentioned was wanting a classic sound. True duals, or with H pipe will get you there. The x pipe like newer cars ( mustangs/ camaros) will give it an all cylinders combined/ single exhaust type sound.

Yes the x and h aid with scavenging. How much aid is aid? Maybe .1% power increase. But not less than 0.

 

[toolmanmike]

For me. it would depend on how nice of a system you want. TTI (if available for your application) is top notch. The neighborhood exhaust shop can do a nice job as well if they are capable. I have seen some over the top systems that were stick built and some pretty crude ones.

The title basically says it all.
I am looking to change the exhaust to get a more muscle car sound for our 67 Belvedere. We have already added an Edelbrock performer manifold and 1406 carb along with Pertronix ignition system. I know I want duals from the manifolds back with either an x or h pipe. After that I still am very nostalgic for the sound of good old glass packs. Is there any reason I would want to go with a mail order exhaust system package over going to a good local ahop and having them do it all?

Price shop just for fun. A shop built system may cost you about as much as an out of the box one.

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

J’s Performance in Dubuque IA or there’s a place in Maqueketa IA but the name escapes my mind

 

[hawkeyestoob]

J’s Performance in Dubuque IA or there’s a place in Maqueketa IA but the name escapes my mind

Thanks! I will give J's a call and see what they say. it is getting to be a great time of the year for a nice cruise through the rolling hills and along the river.

 

[66 Sat]

Old school sound - I went with Thrush Glasspacks and then got a local exhaust shop to knock up a 2.5" system with a H pipe.
You'll have to trust me when I say it sounds awesome! At the track you can hear it howl all the way down the 1/4 mile. It's nowhere near the quickest, but my son reckons It's always one of the best sounding cars on the day.

 

[Dako]

The TTI system has 'slip together' joints with clamps...no welding required.

 

[hawkeyestoob]

Old school sound - I went with Thrush Glasspacks and then got a local exhaust shop to knock up a 2.5" system with a H pipe.
You'll have to trust me when I say it sounds awesome! At the track you can hear it howl all the way down the 1/4 mile. It's nowhere near the quickest, but my son reckons It's always one of the best sounding cars on the day.
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Very nice looking car! My wife fondly remembers the sound of glasspacks from when she was a teenager so I think that is what we will be going with!

 

[toolmanmike]

Very nice looking car! My wife fondly remembers the sound of glasspacks from when she was a teenager so I think that is what we will be going with!

Make sure you go with 2 1/4 or 2 1/2 even if it's a 318. 2 1/4 all the way back is good or 2 1/2 with 2 1/4 tail pipes is good too. I don't like 2" on anything.

 

[hawkeyestoob]

I am looking at the TTI site and now I nee to figure out where to find the casting numbers on my manifolds.

 

[toolmanmike]

I am looking at the TTI site and now I nee to figure out where to find the casting numbers on my manifolds.

They are cast into the side of the manifold. According to the book they should be LH #2465719 and RH #2843953. It is possible yours were changed at one time so you do need to check.