Paint Review of The Restoration Shop Hemi Orange

[Hemicbx]

I needed to paint an engine for a Roadrunner and I decided to take a shot at TCP Global's 'The Restoration Shop' series. http://www.tcpglobal.com/Restoration-Shop/ in Hemi Orange.

The paint is an acrylic urethane that mixes 4:1 and I sprayed is without any additional thinning. I liked the concept because it came in 1 quart kit which included a quart of paint and the proper amount of thinner.

This was not a new engine build. This is a 'return to the road' project on a RR that's sat since 93. I know the engine has been rebuild once so I can't say the original color was real deal hemi orange. After cleanup, this is where things started:

I am by NO MEANS a painter, in fact, I would consider this job my first successful paint effort. Overall, I thought the paint sprayed on nicely, flowed out well and was nice, thick and shiny. I basically had 3 coats on the engine at this point.

It's probably worth saying that I know that some totally disagree with super shiny modern paint on an engine. Thats ok, we all like slightly different things; I like it.

There's just one problem. It isn't Hemi orange. Seems too red; but not horribly far off on its own. I think if the car didn't have a big oval orange (still original color with original decal) air grabber air cleaner I might have left it. So while still inside the recoat window I gambled and ran to the paint shop to get a quart of Nason 5067 (EV2) hemi orange and shot one coat right back over the original. That was a day or so ago and with heat on in the shop curing seems to have progressed quite well.

Thought it was worth getting a post up here so others might find it if doing research on paint options.

From here on out, I'll just post comparison pics of the Restoration shop (darker & redder) and mixed 5067 Nason.

Hope this helps someone.

This first pic is a test panel. Restoration Shop on right, Nason 5067 on left

 

[moobster]

That's the difference between Hemi orange and Race Hemi orange. Race Hemi orange is the proper color for the max wedge's and early hemi's. Hemi orange or street hemi orange as some call it is the redder color and used on '66 and later cars.

 

[Darter6]

The Restoration Shop paint looks like the color on the early poly 318 and Slant six engines around 1963. More red than orange.

 

[Hemicbx]

The Restoration Shop paint looks like the color on the early poly 318 and Slant six engines around 1963. More red than orange.

Yeah, it's closer to that, but I'd say not red enough for those motors. So hard assessing colors from memory though

 

[moper]

It's hard to tell because the lighting, camera settings, and monitor settings all affect what we "see". But - the TCP Global looks to be too red. It's not the earlier Chrysler Red, and it's wrong for the 68-71 Hemi Orange engine color. The earlier Race Hemi orange is much more yellow than either.
However, I think the Nason color is the exterior body color Hemi Orange. It looks like it pops more - like the EV2 body color. So I think you did better by spraying the Nason EV2, I don't think it's correct for an engine version of Street Hemi Orange, but most people will think it is.

 

[Hemicbx]

It's hard to tell because the lighting, camera settings, and monitor settings all affect what we "see". But - the TCP Global looks to be too red. It's not the earlier Chrysler Red, and it's wrong for the 68-71 Hemi Orange engine color. The earlier Race Hemi orange is much more yellow than either.
However, I think the Nason color is the exterior body color Hemi Orange. It looks like it pops more - like the EV2 body color. So I think you did better by spraying the Nason EV2, I don't think it's correct for an engine version of Street Hemi Orange, but most people will think it is.

Yes, I've read that a fair amount as well that body EV2 Hemi orange is not engine Hemi Orange. I'm not sure that I've ever seen anyone put up a legit Dupont color code for engine Hemi orange. In any case it's super close. And much better than the "too red" I started with

 

[moper]

In my younger days there was no paint code for engine enamel. It's not sprayed over any base so the color was always different, [plus the exterior paint when correct has metal flake in it. So back then there was DC/MP paint. The resto versions and custom mixes all came about as time went by and guys tried to mix paint to get what they wanted. So IMO it was always a crapshoot. Now I use the spray bomb Duplicolor or VHT Chrysler colors.

 

[chtampa]

When I bought my engine paint from Badalson I had to specify early or late.

 

[dadsbee]

orange doesn't photograph well either.. here's two of my 383 Mag..NEITHER are what it looks like.

 

[Hemicbx]

Before I shot the Restoration Shop stuff, I had grabbed a water neck and painted it with a spray can of Hemi Orange I had around; thinking it was Duplicolor but not sure. Here is that compared to the Restoration Shop's Too Red Hemi Orange

 

[moparnation74]

orange doesn't photograph well either.. here's two of my 383 Mag..NEITHER are what it looks like.

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Thats the correct "orange" for a 440/383 in 69 but not correct for a Hemi.....That is where people get it convoluted......

At MCACN I saw several cars restored to Concours that had a "redder" high gloss orange. It just did not look good and they got deducted.....

Furthermore, originally it was high gloss......

Frank Badalson and Totally Auto carry the correct paints...Plus it is a PPG product.....

 

[dadsbee]

I knew our Magnum/Supercommando colour was different than Hemi Justin. Was just pointing out how many ways you can slice an orange picture.

 

[Hemicbx]

orange doesn't photograph well either.. here's two of my 383 Mag..NEITHER are what it looks like.

That's an amazing difference in images.

How did you get your steering box so nice?

 

[moparnation74]

I knew our Magnum/Supercommando colour was different than Hemi Justin. Was just pointing out how many ways you can slice an orange picture.

Did I not say yours was the correct orange?

 

[dadsbee]

That's an amazing difference in images.

How did you get your steering box so nice?

Yes, why I was pointing out how photography doesn't pick up some colours correctly and from said pictures I see guys saying "that's wrong". Like my car, I can't get a true Blue shot for the life of me.

Steering box, full rebuild is in my restoration thread... but it's back in the link to DC.com pages. Glass media blast and clear coat.

 

[moparnation74]

LOL.. yes you did, lets not get into an I'm sorry.. you're sorry thread!!

Just what are you trying to point out Wayne? Why dont you clarify the "you're sorry thread"? Honesty goes a long way with me....dishonesty and I am done with that person......

 

[dadsbee]

Like you said over in your thread.. "text" sometimes doesn't laugh so well. I'll delete and clean up this OP's thread.

 

[69a100]

You guys MUST NOT love your cars if you use those shitty ***, crappy, orange oil filters, and not take pride in something precious like a old Mopar! Just sayin

 

[moparnation74]

You guys MUST NOT love your cars if you use those shitty ***, crappy, orange oil filters, and not take pride in something precious like a old Mopar! Just sayin

lol.....that was on it for break-in and paint......

 

[Fran Blacker]

I used rust-o-lem Omaha Orange in the 70's, it was a reasonably close match. Don't known what they call it now.