Ironbuilt
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Seems to me that the list was made up by someone from G.M., with a few honorable mentions.
bud nails it.Camaro, Mustang, Trans Am & the Corvettes aren't Muscle cars
a muscle car was org. defined by being a
BB midsize 2 door, Post Coupe or Hard Top 1964-1971
Firebird/Trans Am/Formula, Camaro, Mustang & AMX are all pony cars
The Corvette is a Sports car
Sorry but the 67-69 Dart & Barracuda is a Compact,
as much as I love the S/S Hemi BO29 & LO23 they were compacts
not org. considered a Muscle car, by definition
{Coined Muscle Cars by Hot Rod Mag. after a write-up of the 64 GTO}
until maybe the 1970 E body Challenger R/T & `cuda versions
so is the Fairlane or earlier Tempests
The GS Buick belongs
so does the Chevelle, I'd have had a 66-67
But the 70 454 SS was a muscle car
the RR is the one that stands out the most
A 68-69 Road Runner & a 69.5 RR A12 even a 71 RR
A 69 Daytona Charger & a 69 Charger 500 Hemi
A 68-70 Charger R/T even a 71 Charger R/T
A 68-70 Super Bee or Coronet R/T even a 71 Super Bee
The Rebel or Machine from AMC
My list would go
Tied #1 69.5 Road Runner A12 & 69.5 Super Bee A12 {fast, light-ish & affordable, strip ready}
Tied #2 68 Charger R/T or 67-69 Coronet R/T {really a full sized car, maybe not by that era standards}
----- #3 70 Buick GS Stage 1 455
Tied #4 70 'cuda Hemi & 70 Challenger R/T 440 Six pack {borderline a muscle car by definitions}
----- #5 68 Road Runner Hemi {1st car built for the youth crowd/market & affordable}
Tied #6 65 Chevelle Z16, 67 Chevelle SS 396 & 70 Chevelle SS 454
----- #7 64 Ford Galaxie Xl 500 Fastback 427ci {really a full-size car}
Tied #8 65 Old 442 400ci 4 speed & a 70 GTO Judge Ram Air IV,
64-65 GTO 389 tri power &/or the 62-64 Mopars/413ci & 426ci Max Wedge cars
Tied #9 69 Daytona Charger & 70 Superbird {IMO both #10's more NASCAR track Fame than Muscle car}
---- #10 69 AMC Rebel Machine
Same here !The question confused me somewhat - Agree or Disagree....then the options are Yes or No.
I went No....because I assumed that meant Disagree.
Corvettes and Mustang are NOT Muscle cars.
I agree- a GM fan with a few cars thrown in to even out the list. I for one, would not put a winged car on the muscle car list. That seems more out of place than the vette.Seems to me that the list was made up by someone from G.M., with a few honorable mentions.
I have a question--When was the year that -you all- first remember the term "muscle car" being used?
I would replace the goat with an R-code Galaxy. There needs to be a 427 Ford in there somewhereI would have...
64-65 GTO 389 tri power
64 Super Stock Dodge
68 Hemi Charger
69.5 A12 RR / Bee
Buick GSX
LS6 Chevelle
BOSS 429 Mustang
1970 Olds 442
1968 Hemi Roadrunner
1970 GTO Judge
I would replace the goat with an R-code Galaxy. There needs to be a 427 Ford in there somewhere
By that logic, 1970-71 Hemi Cudas and challengers would be excluded. IMHO, both are muscle cars, despite limited numbers.To me, a muscle car should have sufficient production, maybe 500 or so. ZL1, Race hemi, thunderbolt, are thinly disguised racecars. Pony cars seem to be considered muscle cars now, generically, i dont have a problem with that, tho it originally meant a midsize car with a big block. The definition has definitely blurred over time.