Tor Red vs. Hemi Orange

[JG1966]

I know Tor Red (V2 Plymouth) and Hemi Orange (EV2 Dodge) were one and the same color back in the day, but are they still the exact same color with modern paint manufacturers? I'm not talking about the "new" Hemi Orange (2008 and up). But if I want a little Tor Red touchup, and the local paint company mixing it up only is showing EV2 Hemi Orange in its database, should that be identical to Tor Red?
I know it might not be a exact, perfect match (my paint job is about eight years old and I'm sure there's been at least a little fade from the sun), but is there any reason to think EV2 and/or V2 are not mixed exactly the same these days? I called Touch Up Direct just to ask, and the guy told me "yes, they should be the same," but that didn't inspire a lot of confidence.

 

[torredcuda]

Code should be the same for both, what brand paint is it and what is the code they are using? -That will tell you if it`s the correct one although formulas have changed due to different type paints mixed with different toners.

 

[The Rebel]

I went to a paint shop and they used a special camera to get the correct color Red (PP1) for some touch up paint. They match what color is on the car to what is in the colors database

 

[gkent]

Hmmm, I didn't think Tor-red and Hemi orange were the same. I think Hemi orange and Vitamin C were the same.

 

[Jerry Hall]

V2 & EV2 should be the same Hemi orange. Vitamin C was EK2, there is a definite difference. The 1970 codes are what I'm referring to.

 

[rickseeman]

Hemi Orange is red, Vitamin C is orange.

 

[JG1966]

I went to a paint shop and they used a special camera to get the correct color Red (PP1) for some touch up paint. They match what color is on the car to what is in the colors database

The paint shop that I'm going to has one of those cameras. But when they match the color, does it give them a formula to create that color OR does it just give them the color code that most resembles it? For instance, will it say V2 is the color or will it say V2 plus .02 percent more white (or something like that) is the color? That's what I'm wondering

 

[JG1966]

Code should be the same for both, what brand paint is it and what is the code they are using? -That will tell you if it`s the correct one although formulas have changed due to different type paints mixed with different toners.

I'm not sure what brand. I think it might be PPG. The code is EV2

 

[#41]

In any case, you are better off having the paint supplier shop analyze your existing paint and match it rather than having them mix it to a code and hope it matches the way they mixed it the first time.

 

[JG1966]

In any case, you are better off having the paint supplier shop analyze your existing paint and match it rather than having them mix it to a code and hope it matches the way they mixed it the first time.

Thanks #41. That's my thinking too. I'm just pretty sure they are going to scan it and look at the results and say, "Yup. That's EV2 Hemi Orange. We'll mix it up for you."

 

[WileE]

Hemi Orange is red, Vitamin C is orange.

Raspberry Red, Lemon Yellow, Orange Orange.

 

[The Rebel]

In my case as my car had a respray it came up as some red from 1985 which l can't remember but let's say it was Toyota red. Either way the color matched what was on my car.

The paint shop that I'm going to has one of those cameras. But when they match the color, does it give them a formula to create that color OR does it just give them the color code that most resembles it? For instance, will it say V2 is the color or will it say V2 plus .02 percent more white (or something like that) is the color? That's what I'm wondering

 

[The Rebel]

Just took a look in the basement and lucked out l still have a can of it. 1980 Nissan Rally Red.

The paint shop that I'm going to has one of those cameras. But when they match the color, does it give them a formula to create that color OR does it just give them the color code that most resembles it? For instance, will it say V2 is the color or will it say V2 plus .02 percent more white (or something like that) is the color? That's what I'm wondering

 

[YY1]

"E" is a 1969 formulation.

The OP is slightly confused.
He is simply dropping the first character (as seen on the fender tag) for one color name.

In 1969 and 1970 both colors were in fact "EV2".

If they had changed the formula for 1970, it would have been FV2.


...and I agree about the color match cameras.

The supplier around here has been 100 dead on matching my aged EW1, hard to match JF6, and even 60 year old YY1.

100%

 

[JG1966]

"E" is a 1969 formulation.

The OP is slightly confused.
He is simply dropping the first character (as seen on the fender tag) for one color name.

In 1969 and 1970 both colors were in fact "EV2".

If they had changed the formula for 1970, it would have been FV2.


...and I agree about the color match cameras.

The supplier around here has been 100 dead on matching my aged EW1, hard to match JF6, and even 60 year old YY1.

100%

When the supplier matches your aged EW1, is it a paint from a different car company? I might be concerned if they tell me the paint I need is Subaru Orange Delight or something like that.

 

[YY1]

When the supplier matches your aged EW1, is it a paint from a different car company? I might be concerned if they tell me the paint I need is Subaru Orange Delight or something like that.

No.

They can match any color even in different media- single stage, base/clear, etc.

They don't label the paint I get with the Mopar color name, only the formulation specs.

However, they did match a bottom tool box I wanted to match with a top box and the formula turned out to be nissan black.

So, I guess- maybe.

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

The paint shop that I'm going to has one of those cameras. But when they match the color, does it give them a formula to create that color OR does it just give them the color code that most resembles it? For instance, will it say V2 is the color or will it say V2 plus .02 percent more white (or something like that) is the color? That's what I'm wondering

It’s called the “Prophet” and only gives you a color breakdown not the code

 

[YY1]

Yes-

How much red, blue, yellow, black, and white.

I think those are the variables.

 

[JG1966]

Well, my worst fears were realized. I went to the local paint shop and had my paint scanned and they said Ford Competition Orange (CY) is an exact match. They also printed out the V2 formula and we compared them and it's nowhere near the same as Ford Comp Orange. I don't know what to do. I might go somewhere else and have them scan it and see what the second one says.

 

[torredcuda]

V2 is technically the code, the E or other letter is the designation for the first year it was used. Hemi Orange is the same as Tor-Red, Vitamin C is the same as Go-Mango.