Water Based or Petrol Based Parts Cleaner

Shop, Garage and Tools

  1. Runner 68

    Runner 68 Tarnished Bronze Member FBBO Gold Member

    Messages:
    2,693
    Likes Received:
    2591
    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2013
    Location:
    The Red Anvil Dog House
    Local Time:
    5:33 AM
    Just curious to know if any of you gurus out there have any wisdom to share concerning water based parts cleaner compared to petrol based. We always used to use kerosene or mineral spirits. It seems like there are alot more water based options out there these days.

    I'm thinking of getting a new parts washer but want to go in the $100-$200 range but they all come with water based pumps. Should I just get a cheepo tub and get a pump for petrol based cleaners and replace it? Any noticeable difference between the two as far as cleaning ability?

    Any advice will help.
     
  2. Photon440

    Photon440 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,073
    Likes Received:
    7936
    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2012
    Location:
    Surrey, B.C. Canada
    Local Time:
    4:33 AM
    Most places I know of that used to have varsol or solvent based cleaners and switched to 'green safe and friendly' water based stuff say the new stuff doesn't work as well. To put it politely.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • ma mopar nutz

      ma mopar nutz Well-Known Member

      Messages:
      817
      Likes Received:
      160
      Joined:
      Dec 17, 2013
      Location:
      Nebraska
      Local Time:
      6:33 AM
      I use a water based cleaner in my parts washer stuff is called OZIE JUICE it does ok but no it doesn't clean as good as solvent cleaner but its safer with my little ones wondering around !!! :headbang:
       
      • Like Like x 1
      • Propwash

        Propwash Well-Known Member

        Messages:
        9,714
        Likes Received:
        4270
        Joined:
        Oct 29, 2009
        Location:
        Island of Misfit Toys
        Local Time:
        6:33 AM
        I use a Zep product called "Big Orange" It's citrus oil based. Works pretty decent, but not as well as a normal solvent. Smells like an orange grove in my garage.
         
        • Like Like x 1
        • rscurtis

          rscurtis Well-Known Member

          Messages:
          149
          Likes Received:
          36
          Joined:
          Oct 28, 2014
          Location:
          St. Thomas PA
          Local Time:
          7:33 AM
          I used a Cintas aqueous parts washer a few years ago, and it worked great. A little pricey, however, at $25/week. They also lost Safety Kleen as a uniform customer.
           
          • Like Like x 1
          • MarPar

            MarPar If it weighs, it pays FBBO Gold Member

            Messages:
            12,565
            Likes Received:
            20635
            Joined:
            Nov 21, 2008
            Location:
            In GTXtacy Illinois
            Local Time:
            6:33 AM
            I use simple green 50/50 with water and it works pretty well.

            not the cleaning "punch" that a solvent would have, but it'll work.
             
            • Like Like x 1
            • Runner 68

              Runner 68 Tarnished Bronze Member FBBO Gold Member

              Messages:
              2,693
              Likes Received:
              2591
              Joined:
              Feb 22, 2013
              Location:
              The Red Anvil Dog House
              Local Time:
              5:33 AM
              Thanks guys.

              I have read / heard good things about Big Orange and Simple Green Chrystal but it seems all the reports are about the same. "Works, but not as good as". I hate cleaning parts and prefer something with punch however not too hip on smelling up the shop plus the toxicity. But hell at my age, what do I care, the damage has been done from the old days.

              The only thing that really sours me on the water based stuff is the surface rust that can occure if you don't dry it well.
               
            • Propwash

              Propwash Well-Known Member

              Messages:
              9,714
              Likes Received:
              4270
              Joined:
              Oct 29, 2009
              Location:
              Island of Misfit Toys
              Local Time:
              6:33 AM
              Hehehehe!

              old-people-stuff_old-age-is-a-gift.jpg

              old-people-stuff_old-age-is-a-gift.jpg
               
              • Like Like x 4
              • Runner 68

                Runner 68 Tarnished Bronze Member FBBO Gold Member

                Messages:
                2,693
                Likes Received:
                2591
                Joined:
                Feb 22, 2013
                Location:
                The Red Anvil Dog House
                Local Time:
                5:33 AM
              • GrabberOrange69

                GrabberOrange69 Well-Known Member

                Messages:
                883
                Likes Received:
                794
                Joined:
                Dec 5, 2010
                Location:
                Hops Capital USA
                Local Time:
                4:33 AM
                Mineral/petrol based. Everything else just plain sucks.
                 
                • Like Like x 1
                • Agree Agree x 1
                • hammond472

                  hammond472 Well-Known Member

                  Messages:
                  463
                  Likes Received:
                  276
                  Joined:
                  Feb 2, 2013
                  Location:
                  Los Gatos
                  Local Time:
                  6:33 AM
                  Water base sucks so don't waste your time with it. If you can't get solvant base in your area try diesel fuel. It works awesome is cheap easy to get and doesn't blow up like gas.
                   
                  • Like Like x 1
                  • snakeoil24

                    snakeoil24 FBBO Gold Member FBBO Gold Member

                    Messages:
                    4,351
                    Likes Received:
                    3306
                    Joined:
                    Jan 23, 2009
                    Location:
                    New Jersey The State of Tax Theives
                    Local Time:
                    7:33 AM
                    Polypropylene Glycol is the current ingredient used in safer products. If you use it straight it works pretty good.
                     
                    • Like Like x 1
                    • meskip

                      meskip Active Member

                      Messages:
                      41
                      Likes Received:
                      11
                      Joined:
                      Nov 16, 2014
                      Location:
                      West Central PA
                      Local Time:
                      7:33 AM
                      How about water based cleaner in a dishwasher, where it would be heated as it circulates? Have an old one that I plan to try one of these days, after I get my molasses soaking tub built!
                       
                      • Like Like x 1
                      • CHARGERSTEVEN

                        CHARGERSTEVEN Well-Known Member

                        Messages:
                        660
                        Likes Received:
                        340
                        Joined:
                        Feb 19, 2013
                        Location:
                        ontario
                        Local Time:
                        6:33 AM
                        clr works good as a cleaner n is safe to the enviroment, n that dishwasher idea sounds like a good idea soap n lots off hot water have cleaned stuff for years.
                         
                        • Like Like x 1
                        • sandbagger

                          sandbagger Well-Known Member

                          Messages:
                          102
                          Likes Received:
                          110
                          Joined:
                          Dec 13, 2014
                          Location:
                          SE Michigan
                          Local Time:
                          7:33 AM
                          Anyone else using Polypropylene Glycol?
                           
                        • AMX364

                          AMX364 Well-Known Member

                          Messages:
                          505
                          Likes Received:
                          180
                          Joined:
                          May 2, 2013
                          Location:
                          Dallas, Texas
                          Local Time:
                          6:33 AM
                          Search for old posts and should find some better answers. You also might need to use a heater to heat up the cleaner. Some have found that improved performance of the parts washer cleaners quite a bit.
                           
                          • Like Like x 1
                          • Runner 68

                            Runner 68 Tarnished Bronze Member FBBO Gold Member

                            Messages:
                            2,693
                            Likes Received:
                            2591
                            Joined:
                            Feb 22, 2013
                            Location:
                            The Red Anvil Dog House
                            Local Time:
                            5:33 AM
                            Thanks AMX, I have been. But as I'm sure you know, the search tools on this site suck @ss.
                             
                            • Like Like x 1
                            • FLY 9999

                              FLY 9999 Well-Known Member

                              Messages:
                              52
                              Likes Received:
                              2
                              Joined:
                              Feb 21, 2011
                              Location:
                              East Coast
                              Local Time:
                              7:33 AM
                              This what they don't tell you. Many of the water based cleaners are not suitable with aluminum. To work effectively the water/cleaner must be warmed to 100*+. If you are degreasing steel you must dry the parts immediately or they will flash rust. Then you have to mist them with an oil product to control it. A hot parts washer uses water based products and exit the washer at over 150*. They tend to dry faster and are more forgiving with the flash rust. This is what I use ,and have done so for 20+ years on a small commercial level. Scrape or power wash heavy greased parts. Cheap oven cleaner works very well but not on aluminum. Once you do that let it dry an use a mixture of 5 gallons of paint thinner(cheapest to find or kerosene works very well if the smell it not a deterrent and it is cheaper than the paint thinner), 2 gallons of lacquer thinner and 1 gallon of denatured alcohol. If you do any spraying, save all your cleaning solvent and add to the mix. The residual oil from the solvents protect the metals from rust for about 3 months.
                               
                              • Like Like x 2
                              • 67 Mopar

                                67 Mopar Well-Known Member

                                Messages:
                                571
                                Likes Received:
                                832
                                Joined:
                                Jan 16, 2013
                                Location:
                                Norwich, CT
                                Local Time:
                                7:33 AM
                                For general cleaning, I've always had good luck using Simple Green diluted 50/50 with water. I keep it heated which really helps.
                                 
                              • khryslerkid

                                khryslerkid FBBO Gold Member FBBO Gold Member

                                Messages:
                                19,421
                                Likes Received:
                                27858
                                Joined:
                                Mar 10, 2010
                                Location:
                                Hanover, Pennslyvania
                                Local Time:
                                7:33 AM
                                Dusting this thread off...

                                Anyone have any luck with Krud Kutter in their water base parts washers?
                                 
                              1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                                By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.