WHAT SHOULD I BE ASKING

1966 -1967 Mopars

  1. XMAN JR

    XMAN JR Well-Known Member

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    My sister & I are selling my dads 2 67 GTXs. We priced them lower than what they are worth. Sadly we need the money. I guess its not a sellers market. Any thoughts on what we should be asking for them with out giving them away ? Theses cars are done right not half *** They are not perfect. We built them to be driven. I know we are going to get people that are going to pick them apart. 1 is a 440 auto. power steering, power brakes 1 is a 440 4spd manual brakes & manual steering.
     
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    Gonna need pics or at least a link to any site you may have it on.
     
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      I have pictures posted on here of the auto. GTX I also have pictures posted on OLD CARS ON LINE of both of the auto & the 4spd GTXs
       
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        Good luck brother, I sure hope you get what they are worth :thumbsup:
         
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          I agree somewhat but was bored and didn't mind helping out.
           
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          BeepBeepRR you are a stand up guy! Not many people would have done this. Those are beautiful cars, should get good money for them.
           
        • 451Mopar

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          Nice cars. You may want to list them on E-bay too. More exposure and getting the word out that they are for sale will help find the right buyer. Videos of the cars running and driving with a nice backdrop like a park, and posed with an attractive model seem to help sell cars.
           
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              XMAN

              Send me some pics of the 4spd cars trunk pan, lower 1/4's, lower fenders and some underside pics....

              Do you know if it has the 915 heads?

              I will pm you mu email address so you can send pics since your not a gold member

              Justin
               
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              Beautiful cars and since you asked I will chime in. Unfortunately value is subjective and 67,s just dont bring the same money as 68-71 cars bring. At 50k you are in crazy auction price territory and after you factor in fees and transport you end up with somewhere in the high 30,s to low 40 take home. Based on average auction sells the last few yrs, I would think 30k-35K for the auto and 35-38 on the 4sp car. The big money cars for the GTX seem to be the convertibles. I guess everybody wants to be Tommy Boy. Being the 4sp is a 1 owner that adds a little value to collectors but you also stated you are looking for a quick sale. Check out the data here on auction sales to get a better idea of where you might want to be price wise.

              https://www.conceptcarz.com/valuation/7048/plymouth-belvedere-gtx.aspx
               
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                I would agree with all of the above - except when the OP said they are pricing them lower to move them, I think even the $30 - 35K and $35 - 38K are still a little high. I think they will sit on the market for a long time at the upper limit of those ranges. The $30K and $35K respectively (bottom of range) may attract a buyer fairly quickly. The market that loves these 67 GTXs (like myself) appears to be small and these cars just don't bring the money of some GM Musclecars and later Mopar B-Bodies. Except for top to bottom convertible restorations and Hemi cars, they have a hard time struggling to match later cars. But I wish you luck. My 2 cents.
                 
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                Thank you all. If we didn't need the money the GTXs would set. I have done body work, paint & full restores in the past. I know I know you never get out of them what you put in them. Has anyone done a full restore on there car & just wrote out a check. Not that there is any thing wrong with that. Other than putting the new seat covers on & the machine work on the engine my dad & I did all our on work. It scares the hell out of me to think what we can sell these cars for compared to what my dad has in them. My dad never wanted to save all his bills for the cars because he was afraid to see what he was spending. lol but I know I kept track. For example- my dad & I was working on his 62 dodge polara 500 when he passed away. On that on he did keep tabs on. With it not done he had $37,000 in it. Now I finished the car & we have over 40,000 in it. If we would ever decide to sell the 62 we would never get any thing close to what we have in it.
                 
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                • Bill Monk

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                  Unfortunately, that's often the case that you can't get back what you have in them. That's why I have always said that unless it's a rare 1 of none or the like, you can't expect to make money on them. It's a passion for these cars and it sounds like your dad had it! I wish you the best of luck.
                   
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                  • 451Mopar

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                    Was looking on E-bay and looks like interest in the older cars is down quite a bit? Maybe just this time of year?
                    I was looking for some marketing examples. Most listings are of the car just sitting in a showroom or driveway. Those have almost nobody watching the listings.
                    I found this '71 Charger and the place does nearly the same videos for all their cars. They are OK, could be better.
                    https://www.smokymountaintraders.com/cars-for-sale/385/1971-dodge-charger-r-t

                    Not a Mopar, but a '69 Camaro 81 views per hour <- that's marketing for you.
                    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevr...ash=item3b02579df1:g:uacAAOSwkrFajYg4&vxp=mtr
                     
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                    XMAN - 2 Things.

                    1. As stated, you need to fire your marketing department. You gotta get these out in the daylight and take good pictures, videos. You can't ask $50k for a car that's got crap piled all over it. I mean you can but I wouldn't.
                    2. Give Southern Motors in MI a call. These guys are dealers but they love 67 GTXs and they pay for them. Don't flame me for the dealer aspect but look at it this way. Cash deal, they'll haul them away. No BS, no guy calling you up two months later complaining about a 50 year old car you sold him. I sold my 68 GTX to them at Carlisle. They know good cars and IMO they paid for mine.

                    Good luck, I wish I was buying right now. I'd come see you.
                     
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                    • wish4hemi

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                      Unfortunately, the market for the 1967 body style is very soft. I only know because I'm a big '67 fan and have taken a hard look at your cars. The most recent '67 GTX to have bids on eBay was item 112815311005, a red 440/auto car that was only bid up to $20,200. Even if you look at the last (10) '67's that sold at Mecum, they're pretty-low priced.

                      $27,000 - turbine bronze 440/auto at Louisville 2017 (high bid, no sale)
                      $28,000 - red 440/auto at Louisville 2017 (sold)
                      $30,000 - blue 440/auto at Dallas 2017 (high bid, no sale)
                      $26,000 - white 440/auto at Indy 2017 (sold)
                      $34,000 - black 440/4 speed at Indy 2017 (high bid, no sale)
                      $29,000 - silver 440/auto at Kissimee 2017 (sold)
                      $31,000 - blue 440/auto at Harrisburg 2016 (sold)
                      $25,000 - red 440/auto at Indy 2016 (sold)
                      $28,000 - copper 440/auto at Kissimee 2016 (sold)
                      $37,000 - silver 440/4 speed at Kissimee 2016 (impressive car, high bid, no sale)

                      All of these cars have their idiosyncrasies, but the '67 market is, overall, very low. With your automatic car being the non-original color and your 4 speed car being not-quite-finished, you might be looking at the low $20,000 range.
                       
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                      • YY1

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                        ...and that is why the "worth what someone will pay" answer is total BS.

                        I mean it's technically true, but it's a cop out answer that adds nothing to the discussion.

                        You absolutely CAN get a close estimate of value based on careful observation of completed transactions and high bids for cars with similar configurations and condition.

                        IIRC there was a really nice, clean 67 R/T on this site about a year ago offered for sale with no takers.
                        It was eventually sold to one of those big classic dealerships like mentioned above.
                        I believe the member did make a small profit, and then the dealership listed it for about 10K more.

                        I want to say, the member paid 22K, and the dealer had it listed for 28-32K

                        I am seeing the same thing that wish4hemi posted.

                        Sales in the low to mid 20's and "no sales" over 30.
                         
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                        ...BTW those are beautiful cars!
                         
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