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who pays 10k for a paint job

As for the garage that's altogether different, now we're talking about a life long investment that provides and will be here forever and hopefully get passed on. Also living where I do, having access to wood and doing all of the work myself you'd be surprised at how cost effectively it was done.

I do applaud you guys who went back to school to better yourself:thumbsup:, I couldn't do it.. school that is. I did it the old school way working my way up from Maintenance but I can't complain, they treat me well.

Totally understand 747mopar! I wasn't dissing you. I was just saying we each use what we have in a way that benefits us the most. Sounds like you will have one hell of a nice shop! And you're right,.... It's a great investment that will be useful for years to come!

As for work, I did the same thing in working my way up. I work for a large medical device company. I started in 1990 as a temporary product builder and worked my way up through the ranks until I hit a wall at a senior technician position. No more room for further advancement without a degree. I was fortunate that our company offers a tuition reimbursement program, so I went back to school in 2007 and got my degree, which enabled me to continue on to an engineering position. I was at graduation and overheard some young girls talking about now having to start pay back the school loans. I was blessed that I had no school debt to pay back!!

Bottom line is that we all work for a living, and choose for ourselves what to spend that money on that best suits our needs, AND our wants. I applaud everyone on here on the work that has been done on there cars. All the cars pictures that the various people have posted have been some nice looking cars.
 
How come it says in paint and body books that you can rent a paint booth? I've never seen this offered but could be an excellent business opportunity.

Many years ago, my Mom took me with her to visit a friend of hers. When we got there, her son was going somewhere to work on his car and asked if I wanted to go. It was many years ago, and I was pretty young (around 9 or 10), but already into cars. I remember there being about 10 guys there all working on their cars. I was told the building owner set it up as a place for people to rent space to work on their cars. There was a makeshift sandblasting booth, a paint booth, and various stalls for people to keep their cars in. I remember him letting me tighten the bolts down after we installed the bucket seats in an old AMX or Javelin.

Seems to me I've seen a TV show recently that did something like that. The shop owner rented out stall space to people to do their projects, and the stall charge also included community things like use of the air compressors, engine lifts, and car lift when needed. Can't remember the name of the show though. Haven't seen it in a while, so maybe it didn't last long.
 
Many years ago, my Mom took me with her to visit a friend of hers. When we got there, her son was going somewhere to work on his car and asked if I wanted to go. It was many years ago, and I was pretty young (around 9 or 10), but already into cars. I remember there being about 10 guys there all working on their cars. I was told the building owner set it up as a place for people to rent space to work on their cars. There was a makeshift sandblasting booth, a paint booth, and various stalls for people to keep their cars in. I remember him letting me tighten the bolts down after we installed the bucket seats in an old AMX or Javelin.

Seems to me I've seen a TV show recently that did something like that. The shop owner rented out stall space to people to do their projects, and the stall charge also included community things like use of the air compressors, engine lifts, and car lift when needed. Can't remember the name of the show though. Haven't seen it in a while, so maybe it didn't last long.

today, that would be an insurance and epa nightmare
 
Are you another asshole on the FBBO talking about my family? Who are you who dare question my wife and i, our choices on how we raised our children? Not that you deserve a answer but my children were in school and someone was always home when they got home.
I personally think your full of yourself, maybe selfish.
If your claim to success was your hobby car "indulgence" and that lead to a great relationship with your child, then i guess our values and how we relate to our children are very much different.[/QUOTE]

Looks like someone don't like being poked back:poke:, it would do you good to quit judging others by your standards. The invitation is still open for you to stop by for a visit if ever in the neighborhood.[/QUOTE]
Completely agree with you Dev here!

I had the privilege to meet you and your wonderful daughter at the Nats. It reminded me of me and my pops back in the day. She was smiling from cheek to cheek and talking Mopar’s with a group of old farts! Her social ability and proper language was refreshing......what teenager these days are like that?

Well one whom was raised by wonderful parents! Core values and beliefs.....

Unlike another and postings clearly show that....
 
I paid $5000 for the '59 truck's paint job. I told my painter that it will be a daily driver and used like a truck.
I got what I paid for. It's a decent looking job, but does have flaws. It's durable.

After watching him prep other cars, and showing me the difference as to what goes on beneath the paint, I now understand the difference between the 5000 and the 20000 dollar jobs
 
Less than $2000 for each,not perfect but nice drivers.Learn to do it,it saves a boat load of cash
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going labor rate is $100/hr...so 700 hrs youre at 70k
Don't expect much for 10 grand. If the metal and prep work dissasssembly etc are done then maybe. However, not many people will do just the paint. A reputable source usually wants to do their own prep work as that is the backbone of the complete job.
 
Many years ago, my Mom took me with her to visit a friend of hers. When we got there, her son was going somewhere to work on his car and asked if I wanted to go. It was many years ago, and I was pretty young (around 9 or 10), but already into cars. I remember there being about 10 guys there all working on their cars. I was told the building owner set it up as a place for people to rent space to work on their cars. There was a makeshift sandblasting booth, a paint booth, and various stalls for people to keep their cars in.




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Don't expect much for 10 grand. If the metal and prep work dissasssembly etc are done then maybe. However, not many people will do just the paint. A reputable source usually wants to do their own prep work as that is the backbone of the complete job.
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Based on my experience most won't guarantee the work if someone else did the underlying body work u less they know what has been done.
 
God, I paid $10K for bodywork and paint back in 1995 and thought it was a fortune. Looked as good 20 years later when it went to another home. Probably would cost twice that now.

Quality paint/bodywork is expensive because it's worth it!
 
I figure I'll drive my cars and let my heirs deal with the expense of new paint. That way they'll only be out 10-20 grand each; that's way less than I have in them.
 
Blade I have to disagree with your assessment. Only because I do not believe that body work requires 700 plus hours as you have suggested. And yes I do understand estimatics and the principles it uses for T&R and Labor, etc. Maybe where you are located and those in other high cost areas will pony up exorbitant amounts of money for a car's body work and paint. Most here I dare say are not that deep pocketed so they opt for a lessor job and result that will still brighten up even the most lack of luster on their cars. Insurance work is the bread and butter of any collision/body shop because it only goes to the operation and salaries/costs associated with running a shop. Side work for resto is gravy to them yet and purely profit yet they would rather concentrate on its revolving door because after all, it is strictly a business. I know labor ain't cheap and that many times is way over priced in its entirety because not many will assume that kind of job because it is harsh and tedious work. The most expensive is never always the best way to go IMHFO...cr8crshr/Tuck:usflag::usflag::usflag:
Not going to argue with You Tuck. I will say that this is the way I spent a good portion of my life trying to earn a buck. I think I have a pretty good idea of the amount of effort to what desired quality quotient, is needed. Also 700 hours is an arbitrary number w/o knowing at what point one is starting from. If the rough body work is done & fill work is in 80 grit mostly, and one is striving for as absolute as possible results, then 200 hours can be eaten up fairly easy to finish fill to 220 grit & in prime & block time.(I don't like filler left in patches feathered into metal, I prefer to finish that section in a very thin skim coat before first primer coats...more uniformity) & No matter how hard one tries, nothing ends up absolutely flawless,(people's idea of perfection varies greatly from one to the next) especially in a game that is based in **applied science**
In body & paint, even crappy work is hard.
That's my story & I'm stickin to it. Merry Christmas/Happy New Year.
 
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Not going to argue with You Tuck. I will say that this is the way I spent a good portion of my life trying to earn a buck. I think I have a pretty good idea of the amount of effort to what desired quality quotient, is needed. Also 700 hours is an arbitrary number w/o knowing at what point one is starting from. If the rough body work is done & fill work is in 80 grit mostly, and one is striving for as absolute as possible results, then 200 hours can be eaten up fairly easy to finish fill to 220 grit & in prime & block time.(I don't like filler left in patches feathered into metal, I prefer to finish that section in a very thin skim coat before first primer coats...more unifomity) & No matter how hard one tries, nothing ends up absolutely flawless,(people's idea of perfection varies greatly from one to the next) especially in a game that is based in **applied science**
In body & paint, even crappy work is hard.
That's my story & I'm stickin to it. Merry Christmas/Happy New Year.
Back at ya my Friend. Wasn't trying to argue but merely engaging in the pros and cons of the topics original questioning. I understand you completely and your vast experience is way far more extensive then mine so I cannot even come close to what you know and are sharing. All I am trying to say is I do believe excellent results can be obtained with minimal expense and of course some 'sweat equity" on the part of the cars owner. It can go a long way and help defray a lot of the cost if one in fact does jump in and do some of the work. I did and being on a very tight budget, did a very acceptable job and the results are what they are. Anyway...enough of the back and forth Blade as if I ever need some experienced body advise in the future, you my Friend will be first on my list. You and your Family have a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year as well...respectfully...cr8crshr/Tuck:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::usflag::usflag::usflag:
 
Please use the "Reply" button when quoting someone's comments. There is at least three on this thread that looks like a "copy and paste" and it's very hard to figure out what's going on.

Carry on!

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Please use the "Reply" button when quoting someone's comments. There is at least three on this thread that looks like a "copy and paste" and it's very hard to figure out what's going on.

Carry on!

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If ya don't pay attention when you start your reply, you'll just add to what you wanted to quote. I've come close to doing it a few times myself.
Carry on about painting!
 
Here's a car where they claim $60k in paint and body work :wtf:

And you don't believe that's possible? "Body work" I would suspect also includes metal work. I can certainly relate and wish mine had of been that cheap! :nutkick:

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