You may have already heard this...but, CANADA?

[Cojohnso1]

How long before we see an EV kicking *** in "no prep" races !! Hell a Tesla can wipe the floor with a Hellcat now !!

I know the king himself Big Daddy was building an electric dragster. Not sure if he is still pursuing? It's got to be tough with technology changing so fast? And of course at Fuel performance? EV will have the same problems. TRACTION!

 

[gkent]

Traction will not be an issue with all wheel drive and computerised traction control at each wheel !

 

[towtruckAl]

Canada produces 1.5 per cent of carbon gasses , the whacko liberals up here only say we must set example for the rest of the world . trudeau is looking for the un job his dad never got , thats it . media mind control of those with no mind . and you r right about Castro and china .

 

[Cojohnso1]

Traction will not be an issue with all wheel drive and computerised traction control at each wheel !

Not sure that's legal in professionals ranks? They could do that with fuel engines. And more importantly? Clutch management. I don't believe it's allowed to be dynamic. You can use computers to log. But not auto adjust.

 

[JDmac72chrgr]

Turn off ALL air conditioning to EVERY BUILDING, ALL GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, commercial high rises, apartment/condo high rises, homes (especially the ones with 2 or more units) hospitals, etc.... OPEN WINDOWS (unable to open window, you're SOL!!) and turn on fans!! THERE, we just reduced carbon footprint & solved "climate change"

 

[Cojohnso1]

Turn off ALL air conditioning to EVERY BUILDING, ALL GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, commercial high rises, apartment/condo high rises, homes (especially the ones with 2 or more units) hospitals, etc.... OPEN WINDOWS (unable to open window, you're SOL!!) and turn on fans!! THERE, we just reduced carbon footprint & solved "climate change"

Actually that does bring up a valid point. Transportation only produces 30% of that foot print. 60+% is electric generation. I'm guessing they are leaning on the Transportation sector first because it's an easier target?

Changes to the electricity production will require more infrastructure change. The technology of renewable to replace coal and oil fire plants is lagging. Make no mistake. Natural gas is last and will definitely be the stop gap short/medium term solutions for the coming decade's.

Fusion energy will likely be the future. But that's at least 50 years out.

There are goings to be some decisions that have to made. And they're not going to be universally welcomed with open arms.

 

[JDmac72chrgr]

Wind energy: costly and high maint, 20 yrs life MAYBE if lucky. Solar: YEA, how did THAT work out in SNOW areas!! Batteries for grid: INVERTERS expensive & unreliable (KABOOM!! literally!! How's that ups system working out for your electronics? Oh, crapped out & took electronic devices with it, shame!!) Fusion: EXTREMELY $$$$ for little bitty bang. FISION/NUKE POWER!! THERE YA GO!! Proven power.

 

[Triplegreen500]

Range anxiety is one thing.

How long does it take you to "fill the tank"? My Charger, I can go from Empty to Full in about....three minutes.

If you have a 750 mile range...but need to go 850 miles....how long is it gonna take you? Want to be FORCED into an overnight stay somewhere, while your sacred batteries are recharged (off a grid that is likely fed by...?)

The end user isn't using fossil fuels or other means to propel themselves.

The grid gets its power from....what? It varies from locale to locale, but here's a hint - it ain't unicorn farts.

EV's aren't "advanced"...they're half-baked. Range? Questionable. Refilling the tank / charging to full? Hours. MULTIPLE hours. Juice requirements? Look at California - their grid is overloaded and they admit it. Upfitting your house to charge the EV? Expensive...and that's IF your neighborhood's grid can support it. And your breaker panel. And your wiring. And your neighbors. And so on. Battery useful life? Mediocre at best. Replacement cost? Insane. Fire issues? Frequent, especially when "quick" charging. And, then there's the materials (and the production thereof) that go into the batteries to make them work.

 

[R413]

“They” want this EV change because it screws with every facet of our lives and the product we buy.

Oregon wants to outlaw the sale of diesel fuel.

just like what happened to the world in the last 16 months.

 

[Cojohnso1]

Wind energy: costly and high maint, 20 yrs life MAYBE if lucky. Solar: YEA, how did THAT work out in SNOW areas!! Batteries for grid: INVERTERS expensive & unreliable (KABOOM!! literally!! How's that ups system working out for your electronics? Oh, crapped out & took electronic devices with it, shame!!) Fusion: EXTREMELY $$$$ for little bitty bang. FISION/NUKE POWER!! THERE YA GO!! Proven power.

80 % of the world lives in sun belt. 50% do nothing but cook 340 days a year in sun. I go to Vegas alot. And I'm stunned how little solar they have adapted. And that's all that city does is cook in sun and use electricity. Its crazy.

 

[Ironbuilt]

I want to know how they are going to power MY rig!!!
They want deliveries, I NEED power!!!

 

[Ironbuilt]

 

[Cojohnso1]

I want to know how they are going to power MY rig!!!
They want deliveries, I NEED power!!!

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Thats a nice rig. I too would have one eyebrow up with the EV push if I owned and operated. I don't believe EV can compete on heavy hauling markets for awhile. Just too much upfront costs, range and infrastructure support concerns. But eventually when 750 mi range at 1/3 fuel cost is reached? Might be tough to compete with a diesel?

These technologies have been around for decades. They are only being pushed now due to climate crisis. Otherwise they would be squashed once again by the power to be. Alot of $$ and politics. Especially with oil markets.

 

[JDmac72chrgr]

80 % of the world lives in sun belt. 50% do nothing but cook 340 days a year in sun. I go to Vegas alot. And I'm stunned how little solar they have adapted. And that's all that city does is cook in sun and use electricity. Its crazy.

Cresent solar farm NV

 

[Triplegreen500]

80 % of the world lives in sun belt. 50% do nothing but cook 340 days a year in sun. I go to Vegas alot. And I'm stunned how little solar they have adapted. And that's all that city does is cook in sun and use electricity. Its crazy.

Vegas (and others) are in the sun during the DAYTIME.

The majority of power consumption (lighting, etc) is at NIGHT.

Solar does not generate at night.

You have to STORE the electricity until the demand is there. Normal power plants 'throttle up' when demand rises, and 'throttle down' when demand is light. Power doesn't just...sit there.

For an intermittent supply source like solar or wind, that takes.....batteries. LOTS and LOTS of batteries.

Again - an EV may be "zero emissions" for the end user...but all those materials have to come from somewhere, get processed somewhere...and, eventually, be disposed of somewhere.

 

[493 Mike]

We have a large storage battery in MI. It's near Ludington. It's a large manmade lake that is pumped full at night and emptied (thru turbine generators) during the day. Been in operation for about 45 years now. I believe they use all wind turbine power to fill.
Mike

 

[Runcharger]

My son works at Inland Kenworth and tells me they are going to test an electric logging truck on Vancouver Island. The theory is it is coming down the mountain loaded and will generate energy to store in a battery. Going back empty going mostly uphill it will use the energy stored in the battery. In theory it should work depending on how much the battery weighs, also where I come from the best logging weather is -40 so again battery technology would be the weak link.
I used to work for the railway and we had a function called DB. The locomotives of course were diesel electric and coming down grades you turn the electric motors at the wheels into generators to generate friction to hold back the train. Very effective but there was nowhere to store the energy so it went into the atmosphere in the form of heat (think global warming).

 

[F4R/T]

Iron Built your replacement is the self driving people killing 40ton tractor trailer made by Tesla, look for a job in solar! We will have jobs in Solar... my ... Here is a question if you want self driving mass transportation device it’s called a train, bus etc. trains drop the load at the depot and trucks take it to the site..
How are you going to run the PTO on my buddies wrecker to remove the Tesla truck off the Tesla car that caught fire and killed the idiot driver in the backseat because his car was a self driver and he wanted it to drive him around.. How many times are we going to beat the dead horse..?

 

[Ironbuilt]

Iron Built your replacement is the self driving people killing 40ton tractor trailer made by Tesla, look for a job in solar! We will have jobs in Solar... my ... Here is a question if you want self driving mass transportation device it’s called a train, bus etc. trains drop the load at the depot and trucks take it to the site..
How are you going to run the PTO on my buddies wrecker to remove the Tesla truck off the Tesla car that caught fire and killed the idiot driver in the backseat because his car was a self driver and he wanted it to drive him around.. How many times are we going to beat the dead horse..?

The "Climate Kooks" just don't get it!! They will continue to hug trees, eat granola and believe in unicorns!!

 

[Cojohnso1]

Vegas (and others) are in the sun during the DAYTIME.

The majority of power consumption (lighting, etc) is at NIGHT.

Solar does not generate at night.

You have to STORE the electricity until the demand is there. Normal power plants 'throttle up' when demand rises, and 'throttle down' when demand is light. Power doesn't just...sit there.

For an intermittent supply source like solar or wind, that takes.....batteries. LOTS and LOTS of batteries.

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Again - an EV may be "zero emissions" for the end user...but all those materials have to come from somewhere, get processed somewhere...and, eventually, be disposed of somewhere.

Comparing lithium strip mining to lets say coal? Is like throwing a snowball at a house fire. With lithium? They are not taking nearly the amount of material. Which means it's much easier to back fill. Which is what is required. It's a false equivalency. Besides, lithium is just the best option today.

Make no mistake. There is no such thing as clean energy. There is just better, bad, and really bad. With coal being the worse. Just look at the life expectancy of a coal miner? And we are burning that material then releasing into the atmosphere/environment without a care in the world. Well, not anymore. Unfortunately it looks like transportation sector is taking the first hit on this effort. I'm guessing plastics production is next. Which causes a whole new set of challenges. But I believe chemistry and engineering can and will solve this issue. With far more ecological sound materials. Electricity generation/storage and consumption will be the biggest fight.