When is enough going to be enough? Wtf?

[Dave6T4]

Not bad but not the look you wanted? What did you put on? View attachment 1893920

I turned the white walls inside on an inexpensive set of chrome reversed rims (I spent all my $$$ on the car). I later had a set of W21 road wheels on it; a Christmas gift from my now wife. This is only colour picture I have of my SuperBee. It was taken by a local newspaper, and showed up on Facebook 50 years later. Notice the chrome reversed rims. Expanding the picture also shows the rear deck aerial I had the dealership install, so I know it is me and my SuperBee. The summer of 1969 at Grand Bend, Ontario. What a coincidence to see it!

 

[toolmanmike]

I turned the white walls inside on an inexpensive set of chrome reversed rims (I spent all my $$$ on the car). I later had a set of W21 road wheels on it; a Christmas gift from my now wife. This is only colour picture I have of my SuperBee. It was taken by a local newspaper, and showed up on Facebook 50 years later. What a coincidence to see it!

That's cool. I usually had a camera around but didn't take may photos of old cars. A few of my 69 Bee was shared by a friend when his Mom passed away.

 

[guy gadbois]

There's quite a few "AI" photos on here and some discussion about it [AI] in general . [for the record, Im 'agin it] Usually, you can tell if the 'photo' is CGI, even the really good ones. Even IF they get the hands right. Theres just a 'look ' about them that seems pretty obvious, at least to me.
However...
Last night I linked to a short video from an Italian film that had Ann Margaret riding a V7 Guzzi whilst perusing ADV Riders. When the video ended, you know how those little 'suggested' thumbnails pop up? Well, there was one that showed called 'What girls in the 70s really looked like or something. I recognised the image, so I clicked over. My mind was blown. Call me simple minded, but how this guy took a still picture and made them 'come to life' , I'll never know. Really cool imho. He has done a lot of these, even colourising some along the way.
So even tho this is a video, it starts with a single photo, so thought Id share.

 

[XS22J8R]

Yes, I recently learned that about the T/A wheels - very strange the lower more "budget" line Plymouth AAR got Rallyes as standard but the higher line Dodge T/A it was an option, reverse of the Rallye gages which were standard on the performance Challengers but optional on `cudas.

Another odd factoid, the Challenger T/A was built off the base Challenger model (JH23), not R/T (JS23), whereas the 'cuda AAR was built off the 'cuda model (BS23)

 

[chargervert]

I liked the W15 covers. They look cool as an aluminum wheel.

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Except for the fact that they flew off the car under hard acceleration and maneuvering as seen in Bullitt! Most 68/69 Chargers came with those hubcaps, the 70 Charger ones were similar looking as well.

 

[autoxcuda]

Another odd factoid, the Challenger T/A was built off the base Challenger model (JH23), not R/T (JS23), whereas the 'cuda AAR was built off the 'cuda model (BS23)

Another thing is the brake drums were painted black behind the openings black painted rims on T/A's with trim rings.
Just like how they are painted red on Rallye wheels and Road wheels (Magnum 500).

 

[Budnicks]

Might interject a comment/story here that whilst not entirely on subject, is, I believe germane to the discussion...

Many moons ago - some almost 40 years now [gee Im getting old]- I became acquainted with a man at a Chevrolet dealership who was still, after all the years, an enthusiast, as opposed to just a businessman. [RIP Curt]

He had gone to work at a Chevy dealer right out of high school in 1955, and progressed thru several positions at 3 different stores until he became a partner in a large dealership in the area. I got to know Curt thru doing some business with him, but usually quickly got done with contemporary transactions and got down to talking cars and history for awhile. Learned a lot and heard some great tales from his 50+ years in the business, but I want to relate some [to me] interesting things he told me about tyres and wheels.



We usually talked mostly about the "Glory Days" of the early 60s thru the early 70s. One day whilst telling me about some unusual orders and how to get a non-factory colour on a car or truck, I enquired as to WHY in the Wide World of Sports did they seem to always order Corvettes [and SS cars] with whitewalls?!? The were hideous imnsho and were not 'sporty' at all. Curtis smiled and said, 'pure profit. See, bitd, whitewalls listed for something like $12. They cost us about a dollar. Twelve bucks wasnt enough to kill a deal, so people just took them and we made another 11 dollars on the car. Doesnt sound like much, but multiply that over the number of units sold in a year, and it starts to mount up. PLUS, a lot of folks then turned around and paid our service department to flip the tyres around to black side out, so we made a few extra bucks on the car again. Same thing with extra cost wheelcovers; [knowing I had a 70 Corvette at the time] he said they ordered a lot of cars with those 40 pound turbine looking covers cause they were something like 50 bucks and 'cost' was like 5. Not big numbers, but lots of percentage profit in things like that.'

He said they knew very well that most of those types of cars would have aftermarket wheels before long, and sometimes they would buy the 'takeoffs' back for the used car lot or something. Tyres and wheels were pretty profitable. This explains why you see photos bitd with cars with whitewalls and dog dishes - those tyres were loaded with dealer profit!

Yep I heard some of the same type stories,
in my dealing with the dealerships (125 facility mgmt.) days
mostly it was the older owners/GM's (general/sales Mngr) loved to talk
about how they made $$, especially when the buying public
wasn't in earshot, they'd brag

they'd pimp them out off the Parts Dept. at cost too, charger retail + service
& make a huge profit "dealer installed" was another way
I think the shop got a bit of credit

or the detail guys did too
like paint sealers, waxes, stereos or remote locks, alarms or racing mirrors,
wheels & tires, spoilers etc. too
they are/were cheapest labor

 

[Budnicks]

There's quite a few "AI" photos on here and some discussion about it [AI] in general . [for the record, Im 'agin it] Usually, you can tell if the 'photo' is CGI, even the really good ones. Even IF they get the hands right. Theres just a 'look ' about them that seems pretty obvious, at least to me.
However...
Last night I linked to a short video from an Italian film that had Ann Margaret riding a V7 Guzzi whilst perusing ADV Riders. When the video ended, you know how those little 'suggested' thumbnails pop up? Well, there was one that showed called 'What girls in the 70s really looked like or something. I recognised the image, so I clicked over. My mind was blown. Call me simple minded, but how this guy took a still picture and made them 'come to life' , I'll never know. Really cool imho. He has done a lot of these, even colourising some along the way.
So even tho this is a video, it starts with a single photo, so thought Id share.

mostly all real too, not enhanced/plastic or silicone
hot pants & tube tops, tight fitting & big bell bottom jeans

 

[68BabyBlue]

mostly all real too, not enhanced/plastic
hot pants & tube tops, tight fitting & big bell bottom jeans

I was there, this is technically correct. I married one of them too. Both of us class of '71. Four of my classmates with my GTX. This is what they look like today if well maintained. And yes, the car had dog dish caps from the factory, but hasn't worn them since it hit the road.

 

[AR67GTX]

I thought these wheel covers were OK when I bought the car in 68 but I quickly went for the plain black wheels and Polyglass tires look and stored the covers in my Dad’s attic. My younger Brother remembers him tossing them sometime in one of their moves. Eventually I put some chrome reverse wheels on it which were OK but plain.

 

[hemi71x]

The original, first owner, of the 71 Hemi GTX 4 speed car that i owned for 32 years factory ordered it.
He had some fancy, aluminum aftermarket wheels waiting to go on that car when it arrived at the dealership.
So there was no sense in ordering the car with Rallye Wheels, when they weren't ever going to stay on the car, so the car came thru with the 15 X 7 steel wheels and dog dish hub caps.
Then somewhere along the line he sold it to owner number two, that severely abused it during that mans ownership.
It then sold to the man that i purchased it from.
A Air Force captain that was here at Mather Air Force Base, for navigator training on the B-52.
He told me during his ownership those aluminum wheel and tires, and carburetors got stolen off the car, before coming to Mather for his training.
He just put on some regular steel wheels, with hub caps, to get the car moving again.
During his training he found out that he was going to be assigned to Michigan, or Maine, snow belt winter country, and the Hemi car had to go.
I got it on the "Lemon Lot" at Mather with the steel wheels and hub caps on it.
Wanna know what i paid for it? $2,950.00 dollars, in 1977 or 1978. Sold it for $120,000.00.
I bought 15 X 7 Rallye wheels for it, two at a time from the local Chrysler Plymouth dealership, here in Rancho Cordova, California.
Had the rears widened out to 15 X 8 1/2 inches to fit within the rear wheel wells.
Then after all that was said and done, i bought the other two for the front.
That's why my old picture of me and the car, has hub caps still on it.
Jim V.
hemi71x

 

[dadsbee]

Were they the ugly ones? Dodge, not too bad. Plymouth, not so much.




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[Runcharger]

That red T/A is a knockout if you ask me. However, take the trim rings off and the coolness would all go away unfortunately. Just my opinion of course but that's the way I see it.

 

[Budnicks]

That red T/A is a knockout if you ask me. However, take the trim rings off and the coolness would all go away unfortunately. Just my opinion of course but that's the way I see it.

yep that 'trim ring' made that combo

 

[autoxcuda]

That red T/A is a knockout if you ask me. However, take the trim rings off and the coolness would all go away unfortunately. Just my opinion of course but that's the way I see it.

I've seen some 71 B-bodies with that trim ring option too. I like it on those too.

I did that with a my high school '67 Chevy II. I really did just have dog dishes when I got it from a little old lady in Santa Monica. Only options: auto, P/S, radio, tinted front window that's it.

 

[gdrill]

It is really too bad that we all like different things eh?

 

[1KoolBee]

My Bee came with full wheel covers.

Mine too.