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10 Wimpiest Muscle cars

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1- 1974 - 1978 Mustang II
Ford's legendary performance car hit its nadir with the downsized Pinto-based Mustangs of 1974–1978, called Mustang II. Although this generation of Mustang came with a V-8, it was a 302 cid V-8 with a mere 139 hp. Yes, you read that right. Second-gen Mustangs pumped out just 19 more hp than you'd get from the 1.6-liter four-cylinder in today's Ford Fiesta.

2 - 1978 Ford Mustang Cobra
The Cobra name should have been kept off junk like this, but Ford had already resurrected the "Cobra" name as a sticker and spoiler package for 1976. The '78 King Cobra got some really special performance enhancements, such as a hood snake decal, even more stripes, and 13-inch "Lacy" aluminum wheels. You could buy the King Cobra in black with gold trim—an obvious attempt to lure would-be Trans Am buyers. But with a deficit of 81 hp compared with the top Trans Am, the Ford wasn't much of a threat. Thankfully the all-new 1979 Fox Mustang would kill the King Cobra and mark the return for Ford performance.

3 - 1974 Pontiac GTO
In 1974, Pontiac made the GTO tag an option on the Ventura, the brand's lame version of the Nova. Under the hood was a 350 cid V-8 rated at just 200 hp. And aside from the shaker hood scoop and GTO lettering, it looked just like your grandmother's car.

4 - 1977 Chevy Monza Mirage
In 1977 Michigan Automotive Techniques Corp developed a package that included wide-body fender flares, spoilers, and striping that turned an ordinary Monza into the Monza Mirage. The Mirage looked cool, no doubt about it, aping the style of the popular IMSA Camel GT racing Monzas at the time. But performance? An anemic four-cylinder was standard. If you wanted a V-8, the only one available was the 5.0-liter you could order in any Monza. Talk about a dog—it made just 145 hp. And if you lived in California, that V-8 cranked out 135 hp—even less than the Mustang King Cobra.

5 - 1976–1980 Plymouth Volare Road Runner
Plymouth affixed the Road Runner name to the lowly Volare midsize coupe. The standard engine was a wheezy 318-cid V-8 with just 160 hp. An optional 175–195 hp (depending on the year) 360 cid V-8 made the Volare Road Runner a bit quicker, but it still was no match for the 1960s and early 1970s cars. Worse, the Plymouth Volare and its Dodge Aspen brethren were prone to rust prompting a major recall in 1977.

6 - 1982 Pontiac Trans-Am
The 1982 Firebird's standard engine was a 2.5-liter 90-hp four-cylinder. That's right, a four-cylinder engine in a Firebird. Yes, there was a V-8 option. But if you selected the four-speed manual, that 5.0-liter Chevrolet-sourced V-8 pumped out just 145 horses. The "Cross-Fire Injected" 5.0-liter V-8 was available with an automatic only, and though it was torque-rich, this motor didn't produce more than 165 hp.

7 - 1980–1983 Dodge Mirada CMX
The Mirada was underpinned with the same chassis as the Diplomat sedan—the cars cops used at the time. But there wasn't much cop-spec goodness under the Mirada. The CMX top model promised performance, especially when you saw those larger 205/75R15 radial tires. But in reality the 360-cid V-8 under the CMX's long hood made just 185 hp. The Mirada died in 1983 as sales of all Chrysler vehicles were in freefall, making room for Lee Iacocca's more fuel-efficient and quicker turbocharged front-drive K-cars.

8 - 1980–1985 Chevy Citation X-11
GM finally introduced its first downsized front-wheel-drive cars in the 1980 model year with the X-body cars, which included such legends as the Oldsmobile Omega, Buick Skylark, Pontiac Phoenix, and the Chevy Citation. The Citation got the X-11 performance package, which turned out to be more than just an average sticker and spoiler package. It came with an HO 2.8-liter V-6 rated at 135 hp, wider 215/60R14 tires, and a "sport" suspension system. That wasn't too bad for a small car in the early '80s. The problem was, even though the ideas behind the sporty version of the Citation were okay, the Citation itself was not. The car gained a wide reputation as a poorly built pile of junk needing numerous factory recalls. Perhaps worst of all, Citations had a tendency to lock their rear wheels under hard braking, causing the cars to spin.

9 - 1978 AMC Gremlin GT
By 1978 AMC's funky Gremlin had been around for eight full seasons. The rear-drive hatchback had lost its top motor—a lame 120-hp 304-cid V-8—a year earlier. So, to boost Gremlin sales in its final year, AMC developed the GT. Here was a pokey little Gremlin made up to look like real performance machine. It had fat fender flares, spoilers, body-colored bumpers, and wide 14-inch wheels with outline white letter tires. On the inside, GT's had an aluminum-look dash and more. But under the hood of this macho Gremlin, you'd find the same torque-rich but horsepower-deficient 4.2-liter inline six-cylinder used in Jeep CJ-7s. Not exactly perfect for a performance car.

10 - 1980–1981 DeLorean DMC-12
John Z. Delorean's American supercar was penned by famed Italian designer Giugiaro and wore flashy stainless-steel body panels and sexy gullwing doors. It's chassis showed promise too, as Delorean contracted Colin Chapman of Lotus to develop the suspension. But peer beneath the engine cover and you'll find the joint-venture Peugeot–Renault–Volvo 2.8-liter V-6 producing just 130 hp. Pretty anemic for a car that looked like the future and cost $25,000 at the time. In fact, in a 1981 Car and Driver comparison test, the Delorean was the slowest of the five sports cars tested.
 
1980 Chevy Corvette,with 305 engine, with those cap emission standards...The "T' tops always a easy steal....Gm's crappy attempt of muscle illusion...
 
I had a 76 Chevy Monza 2+2 with a very nasty small block 400 in it with a stout 350 trans and a narrowed Chevelle 12 bolt with 4.56 gears. It was anything but slow. Before I made the conversion though, it was pretty bad off.
 
If I had my choice I would take the Gremlin!
Matter of fact, I just found a Levis Gremlin in great shape for $450.
 
I passed on a Vega Gt with some sort of funny looking 4 cylinder like Ive never seen before or since. Askin price was a mere $250. I should have gotten it anyway just because it was so different. It was either a 77 or 78 year model. Funny thing is that I could hear the suspension rattle while it was sitting still & the motor not running.
 
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Okay, once again, Mustangs are Pony cars, not Muscle cars. Corvettes are Sports cars, not Muscle cars. Muscle cars are full-size cars with high-performance equipment installed. Pony cars are any long front deck-short rear deck cars based on the Mustang design, which includes Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, and Mopar E-bodies. Sports cars are two-seat cars. Also, Dusters/Demons also don't qualify as Muscle cars as they were classified as compact cars when they were first made. :)

Generally speaking, with the exception of the Mercury Marauder, the only cars made since 1980 that really qualify as Muscle cars, i.e., full-sized cars with high performance engines, exhaust, brakes, cooling, etc., are police package vehicles.
 
Yeah I was going to ask we talking muscle cars or pony cars? Your list is pretty much small bangers of **** not any muscle listed.

For what it's worth I think a wimpy muscle car is the olds 442 or any Buick! lol
 
Yeah I was going to ask we talking muscle cars or pony cars? Your list is pretty much small bangers of **** not any muscle listed.

For what it's worth I think a wimpy muscle car is the olds 442 or any Buick! lol

You are correct! I own a 75 442 W30 455 Hurst olds. I think it is slower that a chevette diesel with a automatic!
 
hey joe mama if you want to have a good laugh go to you tube and look up voo doo mama s hot sauce video its funny some one just sent to my phone :headbang:
 
Did you say Hot sauce.......some are dangerous..........
 

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The freakin' CITATION was a "muscle car"? Give me a break. It was a cereal box with wheels.

Mustang II was definitely a POS -- I owned one, not by choice. Had less go than my Pinto wagon (also not owned by choice). Downsizing from the 71-73 "Titanic" version of the Mustang to the tiny little II was not FoMoCo's finest design hour.
 
I passed on a Vega Gt with some sort of funny looking 4 cylinder like Ive never seen before or since. Askin price was a mere $250. I should have gotten it anyway just because it was so different. It was either a 77 or 78 year model. Funny thing is that I could hear the suspension rattle while it was sitting still & the motor not running.

That was a Cosworth Vega. Very cool car I think but never caught on. Years ago I could have bought a perfect low mile example for less than $2K.
 
Muscle ??

Once past 1975 for the next decade or so any American made car that was called a "Muscle" car, "Pony" car, " Sports" car was nothing more than a visual package..Pretty Stripes, Badges, Wheels, Seats etc...Made to look fast standing still....Look under the hood and you found a
Briggs & Stratton.... Nothing more...No performance what so ever....
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You are correct! I own a 75 442 W30 455 Hurst olds. I think it is slower that a chevette diesel with a automatic!
 
I passed on a Vega Gt with some sort of funny looking 4 cylinder like Ive never seen before or since. Askin price was a mere $250. I should have gotten it anyway just because it was so different. It was either a 77 or 78 year model. Funny thing is that I could hear the suspension rattle while it was sitting still & the motor not running.

A Cosworth 16v DOHC Vega GT, Black & Gold trim
 
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mid 70's-mid 80's were hard to take, any Muscle car wize

77 Charger & 75 Roadrunners (begining of the end for real RR's), sorry other B-Body guys, but they were pretty whimpy, also 74 AMC Hornet & Matador...... J-M-H-O no offense intended to anyone...
 

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#10 cant be on that list.after all that car can travel through time!good luck getting it to 88 mph though!:headbang:
 
Okay, once again, Mustangs are Pony cars, not Muscle cars. Corvettes are Sports cars, not Muscle cars. Muscle cars are full-size cars with high-performance equipment installed. Pony cars are any long front deck-short rear deck cars based on the Mustang design, which includes Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, and Mopar E-bodies. Sports cars are two-seat cars. Also, Dusters/Demons also don't qualify as Muscle cars as they were classified as compact cars when they were first made. :)

Generally speaking, with the exception of the Mercury Marauder, the only cars made since 1980 that really qualify as Muscle cars, i.e., full-sized cars with high performance engines, exhaust, brakes, cooling, etc., are police package vehicles.


Per the Plymouth add (link below), you are correct...about the `Cuda (Mopar E-bodies) being a pony car. But per Plymouth, the Roadrunner was (is) a Super car and the Duster 340 a Super low priced, Super car! Thru the link below, I just learned that I used to own a Super car!...that being my Tor Red, 1970 Duster 340. Thanks Bruzilla. Had you not posted I would not have looked it up, but just continued to believe I owned a Pony car... :headbang:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1Dc7SlAXRw
 
I agree, bust most don't

Okay, once again, Mustangs are Pony cars, not Muscle cars. Corvettes are Sports cars, not Muscle cars. Muscle cars are full-size cars with high-performance equipment installed. Pony cars are any long front deck-short rear deck cars based on the Mustang design, which includes Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, and Mopar E-bodies. Sports cars are two-seat cars. Also, Dusters/Demons also don't qualify as Muscle cars as they were classified as compact cars when they were first made. :)

Generally speaking, with the exception of the Mercury Marauder, the only cars made since 1980 that really qualify as Muscle cars, i.e., full-sized cars with high performance engines, exhaust, brakes, cooling, etc., are police package vehicles.

Semantics maybe, but the original "muscle car" were "midsize cars", originally like the 64 GTO, some Hot Rod Mag. writer coined the phrase "MUSCLE CAR", from that article, it took off after that... Mopar had Muscle cars way before that, but they weren't even called that yet... None of the others & especially Not the smaller Corvette, AMX/Javilen, Hornet, Gremlin, Firebird, Camaro, Nova, Chevy II, Falcon/Sprint, Mustang, Fairlane, Barracuda/Cuda, Challenger, Valiant, Dart, Duster, Demon etc. were "pony cars", not called actual "muscle cars", Semantics I know, I know, but it's all true...
 
77 Charger & 75 Roadrunners (begining of the end for real RR's), sorry other B-Body guys, but they were pretty whimpy, also 74 AMC Hornet & Matador...... J-M-H-O no offense intended to anyone...

lol, well, if you include the 75-79 B Bodies , then you have to add the 73/74 B Bodies. they were built on the same exact platform, only the sheet metal changed. at least you could still get a low compression big block in them. the true muscle car era went out with the 426's and 440 HPs. compression was down by 72 and the hemi was gone. in my opinion the muscle car era had ended by 1973. everything was turning to appearance packages instead of true horsepower and track packages. by 1975 , the charger daytona and roadrunner was nothing more than stripes with a 400 thrown in the mix. by 77 , the road runner was now an F body with graphics and a small block. the charger was nothing more than a cordoba with charger badges and/or a daytona paint treatment and the occasional 400.
 
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