68 Charger on eBay

[Richard Cranium]

I owned an E body Challenger once. That was enough for me.

 

[verdelaw]

So looking at Hagerty, this Charger is worth somewhere between $54k and $72k. Assuming the resto work was done well, I think this is a $55k car all day long. Depending on how nice it is, maybe a $60kish car. This being the height of summer, I think this car will go for $60+k. If it was black or resale red, maybe up to that $70k mark or beyond.

Call it now, how high do you think it will go?

I predict some long-tooth types on here will shake their head and say some sort of "well in my day..." kind of phrase. So let's make it two questions:

How high will this auction go?
How much is this car really worth (assuming all work done is tip-top)?

 

[steve from staten island]

Can someone explain how this bidding works. i looked at the bidding and one guy kept up-ing the price,didn't seem like there were no other bids. So now there is another high bidder and someone would actually go for almost 50 k and not seen the car or heard it run in person....crazzy

 

[NJRR]

Can someone explain how this bidding works. i looked at the bidding and one guy kept up-ing the price,didn't seem like there were no other bids. So now there is another high bidder and someone would actually go for almost 50 k and not seen the car or heard it run in person....crazzy

Steve- the way bidding works on ebay is as follows. Lets say the bidding starts at $1000 with bidding increments of $100. A bidder is willing to go up to $9000, so he enters that as his maximum bid. However, the immediate bid only goes up by $100, to $1100. Someone else comes along and bids $1200, the first bidder automatically has a higher bid of $1300 entered, on and on to his max bid of $9000. If someone bids $9100, they become the new high bidder unless the original guy ups his max bid over the new high bid of $9100. You don't HAVE to put a max bid in, it's just a way to get bids in automatically so you don't lose the item if you're away from your computer. If you want to see all the "automatic bids", click on the number of bids next to the bid price. This brings you to the bid history page. In the upper right, you can click on "show automatic bids." That will show you the history I am talking about. The bidders ebay id's are scrambled so you can't look up a persons bidding history and see their strategy to try and outbid them. Hope this explains it.

And yeah, bidding $50k on an unseen car is NUTS !!!! Unless you're like RC and have money to burn !!!!!!

 

[steve from staten island]

Thanks i get it now and RC ? I heard he's got deep pockets and short arms LOL

 

[SteveSS]

I love my Challenger. I don't think I ever put anything in the trunk of the B Body or the E Body. I was watching a similar car in the ad, as it rose from 52K to 62K no room for profit at that price.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Call it now, how high do you think it will go?

I predict some long-tooth types on here will shake their head and say some sort of "well in my day..." kind of phrase. So let's make it two questions:

How high will this auction go?
How much is this car really worth (assuming all work done is tip-top)?

I think that it may get into the low-50's, but I don't think it will meet the reserve. Anyone with that kind of dough to spend will want to see the car in person and if it's worth it, a deal will be struck then. If the car reappears on fleabay, then either no one looked at it or those who did didn't think it was worth it.

I will have to say that I believe that a top notch 68-70 R/T Charger that needs nothing is worth in the high 50-mid 60 range. There are those who advertise for much higher, but they are not selling.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Here's the problem today; people are picking junkers that were put out to pasture and they think that they are worthy of a restoration. ......And even worse, some fool will buy it!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charg...1645ff11:g:5lkAAOSwbYZXdGTy&item=112042835729



"Nice restorable 68 Charger. Picked it out of a cow Pasture in GA a few years ago. Needs total restoration.

The Bad.....Needs rear frame rails,rear quarters,rear deck panel,truck floor,driver pillar which I have rust free cut from another car,Front floor pan has been changed very unprofessionally,truck lid,passenger door and fender are missing,hood is rusty underneath,etc....."

 

[verdelaw]

Agreed there RC.

So the seller sent me some pictures. I see what could be factory undercoating and relatively clean rails and underbody. Also some overspray. Definitely not pristine in any sense. The seller also told me that he didn't own the car when the restoration was done.. and that he can't show me any evidence of it. Seems odd. Anyway, feast your eyes:

Looks like bidding has stalled at $44,350 and the reserve hasn't been met with one day left. Depending on whether there's last-minute types waiting in the wings.. I may have a chance to go look at this car after it's relisted.

Any narrowing of your estimate after seeing these RC?

 

[Richard Cranium]

Looking at those pictures, from what I see, it looks clean but from what I see with the fender tag, I'd venture to say that the engine compartment is not too detailed though. I'd like to see the trunk pan and more detailed pictures of the lower valance corners, wheelwells and lower quarters behind the wheelwells to see how everything was put together when the new quarters went on. I'd also want to see the pinch seams on the bottoms of the doors and how the quarters look where they have been welded in the jamb are.

If it doesn't sell at auction, I'd ask him how much he wants. If it's in the low-mid 50s, it would be worth taking a look at, with the thought that you could talk him down. But if he's asking north of 60, forget about it.

 

[Moparsmitty]

It's a nice looking Charger in my favorite color. Like Dickie pointed out, it's not perfect, but it looks good. I agree that I wouldn't bid on it sight unseen. Be interesting to know what his reserve is. Any guesses?

 

[cdr]

On my 68 the fender tag and the VIN shared at least the end of the VIN... and I had no build sheet. I'm aware that numbers matching refers to the engine and transmission... but where on the transmission are you going to find anything related to the VIN? And the engine? Aren't the engine and trans going to be date correct?.. i.e. not specifically made for that specific car?

Also RC.. isn't the fuel filler neck not supposed to be painted? I can't believe you missed that....

If you have a 68 with matching fender tag # to VIN,, you have some problems !!!!!

 

[Richard Cranium]

So looking at Hagerty, this Charger is worth somewhere between $54k and $72k. Assuming the resto work was done well, I think this is a $55k car all day long. Depending on how nice it is, maybe a $60kish car. This being the height of summer, I think this car will go for $60+k. If it was black or resale red, maybe up to that $70k mark or beyond.

Now here's a very nice 1970 Charger, but it 88 large worth of nice. It's been on fleabay several times & IMHO it should be priced at 60 large or BO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charg...aea829f7:g:uq4AAOSw8RJXBtVg&item=191908817399

 

[verdelaw]

If you have a 68 with matching fender tag # to VIN,, you have some problems !!!!!

Both had the XS29 on them. So I was mistaken, it was the beginning and not the end they shared. But way to be churlish about it.

Looking at those pictures, from what I see, it looks clean but from what I see with the fender tag, I'd venture to say that the engine compartment is not too detailed though. I'd like to see the trunk pan and more detailed pictures of the lower valance corners, wheelwells and lower quarters behind the wheelwells to see how everything was put together when the new quarters went on. I'd also want to see the pinch seams on the bottoms of the doors and how the quarters look where they have been welded in the jamb are.

If it doesn't sell at auction, I'd ask him how much he wants. If it's in the low-mid 50s, it would be worth taking a look at, with the thought that you could talk him down. But if he's asking north of 60, forget about it.

I agree it looks relatively clean. But not clean enough if they're looking for $60-70k. What do you mean it's not too detailed? As in cleaned? Or as in they're missing things? If it doesn't sell I may go take a look at it and talk turkey in person. Someone is always going to say their asking price is more to a random person on the phone. To someone in person who has just taken a good look at their car and talked to them one on one, you can usually do better. For a car like this, I won't nickel and dime haggle for $1k or $2k. If he was asking $60k or near it I think it's possible we could make a deal. You seem to be more shrewd than me RC, and able to get people to lower their prices beyond what seems possible. Maybe I should fly you out to do my talking for me.

 

[verdelaw]

Now here's a very nice 1970 Charger, but it 88 large worth of nice. It's been on fleabay several times & IMHO it should be priced at 60 large or BO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charg...aea829f7:g:uq4AAOSw8RJXBtVg&item=191908817399

I've seen that one around a lot too. I don't think it'll ever sell at that price. I'm not really sure where it should be though.

 

[verdelaw]

Bidding is at $45,099 and it looks like the reserve has been met?... I guess I need to reevaluate how much these cars are worth and put less trust in Hagerty.

 

[cdr]

Both had the XS29 on them. So I was mistaken, it was the beginning and not the end they shared. But way to be churlish about it.]

my ONLY intent, is for it to be understood how the #'s are on a 1968, it is VERY important for documenting a rebody or some other shady # issues. I was in no way trying to be a jerk, but I can be if needed LOL

 

[Richard Cranium]

What do you mean it's not too detailed? As in cleaned? Or as in they're missing things?

Just general attention to detail. Yes, the engine has a few aftermarket things on it, but the plug wires looks messy, the front end wiring & hoses need some attention, the cheater battery clamp on the + cable, it's got an aftermarket radiator, what looks like crud between the master cylinder and steering column, and the close up of the fender tag shows paint that just isn't that nice, which makes me think that the paint in the whole engine compartment isn't really that nice. You can't see them in the picture, but if the upper control arm cam bolts are painted, to me, that's a dead give away that the engine compartment was sprayed quickly. Another give away for a quickie job is the fill tube in the trunk painted body color, as was pointed out by others. To me, what the seller says here gives me pause for concern...

"48 YEAR OLD CAR, SO THERE ARE A FEW BLEMISHES"

There is a big difference between a car that was restored nicely that now has a few road chips and maybe a small scratch or two, and a car that someone says looks good for being 48 years old. The reality is age has nothing to do with condition. We've all seen 2 year old cars that are beat boxes and 50 year old cars that are clean enough to eat off of.

You seem to be more shrewd than me RC, and able to get people to lower their prices beyond what seems possible. Maybe I should fly you out to do my talking for me.

I am not shrewd at all, but when it comes to 68-69 B-bodies, I have a pretty good eye and I know what I am looking at. Bottom line is that the car looks pretty good in pictures and it's most likely going to be a good driver quality car, but it needs a fair amount of detail work. But, it looks like the reserve was set at 45 large, so it is going to get sold no matter what I think.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Sold...... $46,487.00